From: CGEL <cgel.zte@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, ammarfaizi2@gnuweeb.org,
oleksandr@natalenko.name, willy@infradead.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, corbet@lwn.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
xu xin <xu.xin16@zte.com.cn>, Yang Yang <yang.yang29@zte.com.cn>,
Ran Xiaokai <ran.xiaokai@zte.com.cn>,
wangyong <wang.yong12@zte.com.cn>,
Yunkai Zhang <zhang.yunkai@zte.com.cn>,
Jiang Xuexin <jiang.xuexin@zte.com.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/ksm: introduce ksm_enabled for each processg
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 08:52:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <628c9cb4.1c69fb81.aec05.30a1@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YoX0TWoNw3HqH/X/@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 09:39:57AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 19-05-22 06:35:03, CGEL wrote:
> > On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 02:14:28PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Wed 18-05-22 07:40:30, CGEL wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > 2. process_madvise is still a kind of madvise. processs_madvise from
> > > > another process overrides the intention of origin app code ifself that
> > > > also calls madvise, which is unrecoverable. For example, if a process "A"
> > > > which madvises just one part of VMAs (not all) as MERGEABLE run on the OS
> > > > already, meanwhile, if another process which doesn't know the information
> > > > of "A" 's MERGEABLE areas, then call process_madvise to advise all VMAs of
> > > > "A" as MERGEABLE, the original MERGEABLE information of "A" calling madivse
> > > > is erasured permanently.
> > >
> > > I do not really follow. How is this any different from an external
> > > process modifying the process wide policy via the proc or any other
> > > interface?
> >
> > In this patch, you can see that we didn't modify the flag of any VMA of
> > the target process, which is different from process_madvise. So it is
> > easy to keep the original MERGEABLE information of the target process
> > when we turn back to the default state from the state "always".
>
> This means that /proc/<pid>/smaps doesn't show the real state, right?
Maybe we can add extra information of KSM forcible state in /proc/<pid>/smaps
like THPeligible.
Really, Michal, I think it again, 'process_ madvise' is really not good. In
addition to some shortcomings I said before, If new vmas of the target process
are created after the external process calls process_madvise(), then we have to
call `process_madvise()` on them again, over and over again, regularly, just like
Oleksandr said [1].
[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1817008.tdWV9SEqCh@natalenko.name/
>
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-24 8:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-17 9:27 [PATCH] mm/ksm: introduce ksm_enabled for each process cgel.zte
2022-05-17 14:04 ` Michal Hocko
2022-05-18 2:47 ` CGEL
2022-05-18 12:12 ` Michal Hocko
2022-05-19 6:23 ` CGEL
2022-05-19 7:35 ` Michal Hocko
2022-05-19 8:02 ` CGEL
2022-05-19 8:24 ` Michal Hocko
2022-05-18 6:58 ` Balbir Singh
2022-05-18 7:40 ` [PATCH] mm/ksm: introduce ksm_enabled for each processg CGEL
2022-05-18 12:14 ` Michal Hocko
2022-05-19 6:35 ` CGEL
2022-05-19 7:39 ` Michal Hocko
2022-05-24 8:52 ` CGEL [this message]
2022-05-24 9:04 ` Michal Hocko
2022-05-25 6:56 ` CGEL
2022-05-25 7:38 ` Michal Hocko
2022-05-18 14:31 ` [PATCH] mm/ksm: introduce ksm_enabled for each process Jann Horn
2022-05-19 3:39 ` CGEL
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