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From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Teng Hu <huteng.ht@bytedance.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: page_alloc: don't allocate page from memoryless nodes
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 20:33:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <632e6be8-f1e2-b57f-a70c-f3aec3adabd1@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y+t0Bhu7BCzH2Dp4@kernel.org>



On 2023/2/14 19:44, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> (added x86 folks)
> 
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 12:29:42PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 14.02.23 12:26, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>> On 2023/2/14 19:22, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>
>>>> TBH, this is the first time I hear of NODE_MIN_SIZE and it seems to be a
>>>> pretty x86 specific thing.
>>>>
>>>> Are we sure we want to get NODE_MIN_SIZE involved?
>>>
>>> Maybe add an arch_xxx() to handle it?
>>
>> I still haven't figured out what we want to achieve with NODE_MIN_SIZE at
>> all. It smells like an arch-specific hack looking at
>>
>> "Don't confuse VM with a node that doesn't have the minimum amount of
>> memory"
>>
>> Why shouldn't mm-core deal with that?
> 
> Well, a node with <4M RAM is not very useful and bears all the overhead of
> an extra live node.
> 
> But, hey, why won't we just drop that '< NODE_MIN_SIZE' and let people with
> weird HW configurations just live with this?

Just to sum up, whether we deal with '< NODE_MIN_SIZE' or not, IIUC, the
following two should be modified:

1) we should skip memoryless nodes completely in find_next_best_node():

@@ -6382,8 +6378,11 @@ int find_next_best_node(int node, nodemask_t
*used_node_mask)
          int min_val = INT_MAX;
          int best_node = NUMA_NO_NODE;

-       /* Use the local node if we haven't already */
-       if (!node_isset(node, *used_node_mask)) {
+       /*
+        * Use the local node if we haven't already. But for memoryless
local
+        * node, we should skip it and fallback to other nodes.
+        */
+       if (!node_isset(node, *used_node_mask) && node_state(node,
N_MEMORY)) {
                  node_set(node, *used_node_mask);
                  return node;
          }

This also fixes the bug mentioned in commit message.

2) we should call node_states_clear_node() before build_all_zonelists()
in offline_pages():

@@ -1931,12 +1931,12 @@ int __ref offline_pages(unsigned long start_pfn, 
unsigned long nr_pages,
         /* reinitialise watermarks and update pcp limits */
         init_per_zone_wmark_min();

+       node_states_clear_node(node, &arg);
         if (!populated_zone(zone)) {
                 zone_pcp_reset(zone);
                 build_all_zonelists(NULL);
         }

-       node_states_clear_node(node, &arg);
         if (arg.status_change_nid >= 0) {
                 kcompactd_stop(node);
                 kswapd_stop(node);

Otherwise, the node whose N_MEMORY state is about to be cleared will 
still be established in the fallback list of other nodes.

Right?

Thanks,
Qi

>   
>> I'd appreciate an explanation of the bigger picture, what the issue is and
>> what the approach to solve it is (including memory onlining/offlining).
>>
>> -- 
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David / dhildenb
>>
> 

-- 
Thanks,
Qi


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-14 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-12 11:03 [PATCH] mm: page_alloc: don't allocate page from memoryless nodes Qi Zheng
2023-02-13  8:47 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-02-13 11:00   ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-14  8:42     ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-02-14  9:17       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14  9:43         ` Mike Rapoport
     [not found]           ` <67240e55-af49-f20a-2b4b-b7d574cd910d@gmail.com>
2023-02-14 11:22             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 11:26               ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-14 11:29                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 11:38                   ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-14 11:44                   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-14 11:48                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 11:58                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 12:09                         ` [External] " Qi Zheng
2023-02-14 13:38                         ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-15  9:30                           ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-15  9:41                             ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-15 10:08                               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-15 10:19                                 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-15  9:43                             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-15 10:04                               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-15 10:11                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-15 16:55                             ` Michal Hocko
2023-10-16  4:09                             ` Qi Zheng
2023-10-17  6:12                               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-14 12:33                     ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2023-02-14 12:46                     ` Mike Rapoport
     [not found]   ` <Y+tQDN/TmdTPFFR6@kernel.org>
2023-02-14 10:33     ` Qi Zheng

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