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From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ayush Ranjan <ayushr@modal.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] shmem: FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE vs fault-around race corrupts page cache / rss counters
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2026 18:14:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <639389d5-5048-4145-bcbf-c4b2d57e86e8@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5ebaba53-b2de-490e-a14c-c49bbb4337ad@linux.alibaba.com>



On 10/9/26 5:20 PM, Baolin Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/9/26 4:41 PM, Pedro Falcato wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 09, 2026 at 02:46:18PM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/8/26 5:24 PM, Jan Kara wrote:
>>>> On Sun 04-10-26 22:28:31, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>>> On Sat,  3 Oct 2026 03:31:03 +0000 Ayush Ranjan <ayushr@modal.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Gentle ping on this. The reproducer in my previous mail [1] triggers
>>>>>> "Bad page cache ... still mapped when deleted" on 6.18.46 within a
>>>>>> couple of minutes on a 128-CPU bare-metal box, with no fork() and no
>>>>>> gVisor involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We continue to hit this in production at low frequency, so I am happy
>>>>>> to test patches or collect more data if that would help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> fwiw I made gpt and gemini argue about this for a while and ended up
>>>>> with the below.
>>>>
>>>> Worth a try I guess. Let's see :)
>>>>
>>>>> From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>>>>> Subject: mm: shmem: serialize fault-around against hole punching
>>>>> Date: Sun Oct 4 09:05:31 PM PDT 2026
>>>>>
>>>>> shmem uses filemap_map_pages() for fault-around.  Unlike 
>>>>> shmem_fault(),
>>>>> filemap_map_pages() does not participate in shmem's fallocate 
>>>>> exclusion
>>>>> protocol.
>>>>>
>>>>> During a partial hole punch of a large shmem folio, the folio can 
>>>>> be split
>>>>> and the resulting smaller folios can remain temporarily visible in 
>>>>> the page
>>>>> cache while shmem_undo_range() restarts its walk.  Fault-around can 
>>>>> then map
>>>>> one of those folios again before the hole-punch path removes it.
>>>>>
>>>>> shmem_undo_range() may subsequently delete that folio from the page 
>>>>> cache
>>>>> despite the new userspace mapping.  This can trigger "still mapped 
>>>>> when
>>>>> deleted" warnings and leave stale mappings or inconsistent RSS/ 
>>>>> page-table
>>>>> accounting behind.
>>>>
>>>> So this part of explanation is either incomplete or wrong in my 
>>>> opinion.
>>>> Yes, shmem_undo_range() calls truncate_inode_partial_folio() which can
>>>> split a large folio. Yes, filemap_map_pages() can map those pages 
>>>> back into
>>>> page tables. But how "shmem_undo_range() may subsequently delete 
>>>> that folio
>>>> from the page cache despite the new userspace mapping" happens is 
>>>> unclear
>>>> to me. After splitting a folio, shmem_undo_range() will restart and 
>>>> find the
>>>> newly split (and mapped) folios and calls truncate_inode_folio() to 
>>>> get rid
>>>> of them. Now truncate_inode_folio() calls truncate_cleanup_folio() 
>>>> which
>>>> does:
>>>>
>>>>           if (folio_mapped(folio))
>>>>                   unmap_mapping_folio(folio);
>>>>
>>>> so the mapping is reliably removed under folio lock. Can you perhaps 
>>>> push
>>>> your agents further to explain in more detail how this "still mapped 
>>>> when
>>>> deleted" happens in their opinion?
>>>
>>> Good point and I think you are right.
>>>
>>> Yesterday I quickly reproduced the issue with Ayush's reproducer, and 
>>> I got
>>> the following crash info. From the dump message, we can see that
>>> truncate_inode_folio() is really trying to remove mapped folios, 
>>> which is
>>> incorrect.
>>>
>>> I also quickly tried Andrew's patch, and the issue no longer 
>>> reproduces, so
>>> I initially thought that was the root cause. But after your reminder, 
>>> I now
>>> believe Andrew's patch merely workaround the issue rather than fixing 
>>> the
>>> actual root cause.
>>>
>>> Today I'm going to re-analyze the race with the reproducer (thanks 
>>> Ayush).
>>>
>>> After analysis, I believe the race exists between truncation and
>>> MADV_DONTNEED, and shmem's fault_around() merely makes the issue 
>>> easier to
>>> reproduce. Since MADV_DONTNEED synchronously releases the pagetable page
>>> before calling tlb_flush_rmaps(), this could cause another thread's
>>> truncation to skip zap_pte_range() but still observe the folio's 
>>> mapcount as
>>> non-zero. A possible race scenario is as follows:
>>>
>>> CPU 0                CPU 1
>>>                 madvise_dontneed_single_vma
>>> shmem_fallocate            ......
>>>    ......              zap_pte_range
>>>    truncate_inode_folio            zap_empty_pte_table(pmd clear)
>>>      unmap_mapping_folio
>>>      ......
>>>        zap_pmd_range(saw pmd none)
>>>      filemap_remove_folio
>>>         BUG_ON(folio_mapped)
>>>                     tlb_flush_rmaps
>>
>> Thanks for the investigation!
>>
>> So, I think I understand the problem (rmap walks race PTE zapping, 
>> which no
>> longer serializes on the PTE lock), but I don't understand your 
>> solution at
>> all.
>>>
>>> Based on the above race analysis, I made the following fix that uses 
>>> the PMD
>>> lock synchronously to prevent this race, and the issue no longer 
>>> reproduces.
>>> I will clean it up and send out a formal patch.
>>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>>> index 6a8e7772b8d6..2039ada99b64 100644
>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>>> @@ -2036,6 +2036,15 @@ static unsigned long zap_pte_range(struct 
>>> mmu_gather
>>> *tlb,
>>>                  }
>>>          } while (pte += nr, addr += PAGE_SIZE * nr, addr != end);
>>>
>>> +       add_mm_rss_vec(mm, rss);
>>> +       lazy_mmu_mode_disable();
>>> +
>>> +       /* Do the actual TLB flush before dropping ptl */
>>> +       if (force_flush) {
>>> +               tlb_flush_mmu_tlbonly(tlb);
>>> +               tlb_flush_rmaps(tlb, vma);
>>> +       }
>>> +
>>>          /*
>>>           * Fast path: try to hold the pmd lock and unmap the PTE page.
>>>           *
>>> @@ -2046,15 +2055,6 @@ static unsigned long zap_pte_range(struct 
>>> mmu_gather
>>> *tlb,
>>>           */
>>>          if (can_reclaim_pt && direct_reclaim && addr == end)
>>>                  direct_reclaim = zap_empty_pte_table(mm, pmd, ptl, 
>>> &pmdval);
>>> -
>>> -       add_mm_rss_vec(mm, rss);
>>> -       lazy_mmu_mode_disable();
>>> -
>>> -       /* Do the actual TLB flush before dropping ptl */
>>> -       if (force_flush) {
>>> -               tlb_flush_mmu_tlbonly(tlb);
>>> -               tlb_flush_rmaps(tlb, vma);
>>> -       }
>>>          pte_unmap_unlock(start_pte, ptl);
>>
>> Namely, why moving this hunk of code up there makes any difference.
>> I suppose it's subtly changing memory order, but it's not immediate
>> in any way why this is correct.
>>
>> What you really need (I think) is a happens-before relationship between
>> the rmap changes and the PMD zapping. Something like:
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>> index 330cde31bf8b..17cdd48fff27 100644
>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>> @@ -2108,6 +2108,13 @@ static inline unsigned long 
>> zap_pmd_range(struct mmu_gather *tlb,
>>                          sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(tlb->mm, pmd);
>>                  }
>>                  if (pmd_none(*pmd)) {
>> +                       /*
>> +                        * Pairs with tlb_flush_rmaps() in PTE zapping.
>> +                        * Possibly skipping a page table (due to PTE 
>> zapping)
>> +                        * needs to enforce ordering between the rmap 
>> changes
>> +                        * and the PMD getting cleared.
>> +                        */
>> +                       smp_rmb();
>>                          addr = next;
>>                          continue;
>>                  }
>> diff --git a/mm/mmu_gather.c b/mm/mmu_gather.c
>> index 9f353f0e2ef4..47b25c42bf77 100644
>> --- a/mm/mmu_gather.c
>> +++ b/mm/mmu_gather.c
>> @@ -89,6 +89,10 @@ void tlb_flush_rmaps(struct mmu_gather *tlb, struct 
>> vm_area_struct *vma)
>>          tlb_flush_rmap_batch(&tlb->local, vma);
>>          if (tlb->active != &tlb->local)
>>                  tlb_flush_rmap_batch(tlb->active, vma);
>> +       /*
>> +        * rmap changes need to be observed before e.g PTEs get zapped.
>> +        */
>> +       smp_wmb();
>>          tlb->delayed_rmap = 0;
>>   }
>>   #endif
>>
>> On top of your diff. Where the smp_wmb() is perhaps not required: I 
>> suppose TLB flushing
>> works as a sort of memory barrier itself on most/all architectures.
>> Either way, we have to document and fix expectations around this code.
> 
> Agree, I don't think we need smp_wmb() here. Moreover, 
> zap_empty_pte_table() will call the pmd lock/unlock, which already 
> indicates a memory barrier.

After more thinking, I think we still need an smp_wmb(). Please review 
my new fix patch. Thanks.

https://lore.kernel.org/all/0d2a1809fa1cfc22ad3df26ec28b2d30e5cdf3bd.1791540483.git.baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-09 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-24  6:16 [BUG] shmem: FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE vs fault-around race corrupts page cache / rss counters Ayush Ranjan
2026-09-24  7:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-24  8:34 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-09-24  9:15   ` Jan Kara
2026-09-25  5:32     ` Ayush Ranjan
2026-09-24  9:30   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-25  5:33     ` Ayush Ranjan
2026-09-25  5:30   ` Ayush Ranjan
2026-09-25  6:50     ` Ayush Ranjan
2026-10-03  3:31       ` Ayush Ranjan
2026-10-05  5:28         ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-08  9:24           ` Jan Kara
2026-10-08 15:23             ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-08 15:31               ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-09  6:46             ` Baolin Wang
2026-10-09  8:41               ` Pedro Falcato
2026-10-09  9:20                 ` Baolin Wang
2026-10-09 10:14                   ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2026-10-08 13:07           ` Gregory Price
2026-10-08  7:58         ` Baolin Wang
2026-10-08  9:26           ` Jan Kara

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