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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Fan Ni <fan.ni@samsung.com>, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org" <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Adam Manzanares <a.manzanares@samsung.com>,
	"dave@stgolabs.net" <dave@stgolabs.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] CXL RAM and the 'Soft Reserved' => 'System RAM' default
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 20:56:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63e47d0dcbe55_36c729476@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230208173720.GA709329@bgt-140510-bm03>

Fan Ni wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 05:02:29PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> 
> 
> > Summary:
> > --------
> > 
> > CXL RAM support allows for the dynamic provisioning of new CXL RAM
> > regions, and more routinely, assembling a region from an existing
> > configuration established by platform-firmware. The latter is motivated
> > by CXL memory RAS (Reliability, Availability and Serviceability)
> > support, that requires associating device events with System Physical
> > Address ranges and vice versa.
> > 
> > The 'Soft Reserved' policy rework arranges for performance
> > differentiated memory like CXL attached DRAM, or high-bandwidth memory,
> > to be designated for 'System RAM' by default, rather than the device-dax
> > dedicated access mode. That current device-dax default is confusing and
> > surprising for the Pareto of users that do not expect memory to be
> > quarantined for dedicated access by default. Most users expect all
> > 'System RAM'-capable memory to show up in FREE(1).
> > 
> > 
> > Details:
> > --------
> > 
> > Recall that the Linux 'Soft Reserved' designation for memory is a
> > reaction to platform-firmware, like EFI EDK2, delineating memory with
> > the EFI Specific Purpose Memory attribute (EFI_MEMORY_SP). An
> > alternative way to think of that attribute is that it specifies the
> > *not* general-purpose memory pool. It is memory that may be too precious
> > for general usage or not performant enough for some hot data structures.
> > However, in the absence of explicit policy it should just be 'System
> > RAM' by default.
> > 
> > Rather than require every distribution to ship a udev policy to assign
> > dax devices to dax_kmem (the device-memory hotplug driver) just make
> > that the kernel default. This is similar to the rationale in:
> > 
> > commit 8604d9e534a3 ("memory_hotplug: introduce CONFIG_MEMORY_HOTPLUG_DEFAULT_ONLINE")
> > 
> > With this change the relatively niche use case of accessing this memory
> > via mapping a device-dax instance can be achieved by building with
> > CONFIG_MEMORY_HOTPLUG_DEFAULT_ONLINE=n, or specifying
> > memhp_default_state=offline at boot, and then use:
> > 
> >     daxctl reconfigure-device $device -m devdax --force
> > 
> > ...to shift the corresponding address range to device-dax access.
> > 
> > The process of assembling a device-dax instance for a given CXL region
> > device configuration is similar to the process of assembling a
> > Device-Mapper or MDRAID storage-device array. Specifically, asynchronous
> > probing by the PCI and driver core enumerates all CXL endpoints and
> > their decoders. Then, once enough decoders have arrived to a describe a
> > given region, that region is passed to the device-dax subsystem where it
> > is subject to the above 'dax_kmem' policy. This assignment and policy
> > choice is only possible if memory is set aside by the 'Soft Reserved'
> > designation. Otherwise, CXL that is mapped as 'System RAM' becomes
> > immutable by CXL driver mechanisms, but is still enumerated for RAS
> > purposes.
> > 
> > This series is also available via:
> > 
> > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/cxl/cxl.git/log/?h=for-6.3/cxl-ram-region
> > 
> > ...and has gone through some preview testing in various forms.
> > 
> > ---
> 
> Tested-by: Fan Ni <fan.ni@samsung.com>
> 
> 
> Run the following tests with the patch (with the volatile support at qemu).
> Note: cxl related code are compiled as modules and loaded before used.
> 
> For pmem setup, tried three topologies (1HB1RP1Mem, 1HB2RP2Mem, 1HB2RP4Mem with
> a cxl switch). The memdev is either provided in the command line when launching
> qemu or hot added to the guest with device_add command in qemu monitor.
> 
> The following operations are performed,
> 1. create-region with cxl cmd
> 2. create name-space with ndctl cmd
> 3. convert cxl mem to ram with daxctl cmd
> 4. online the memory with daxctl cmd
> 5. Let app use the memory (numactl --membind=1 htop)
> 
> Results: No regression.
> 
> For volatile memory (hot add with device_add command), mainly tested 1HB1RP1Mem
> case (passthrough).
> 1. the device can be correctly discovered after hot add (cxl list, may need
> cxl enable-memdev)
> 2. creating ram region (cxl create-region) succeeded, after creating the
> region, a dax device under /dev/ is shown.
> 3. online the memory passes, and the memory is shown on another NUMA node.
> 4. Let app use the memory (numactl --membind=1 htop) passed.

Thank you, Fan!


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-09  4:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-06  1:02 [PATCH 00/18] CXL RAM and the 'Soft Reserved' => 'System RAM' default Dan Williams
2023-02-06  1:02 ` [PATCH 01/18] cxl/Documentation: Update references to attributes added in v6.0 Dan Williams
2023-02-06 15:17   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-06 16:37   ` Gregory Price
2023-02-06 17:27   ` [PATCH 1/18] " Davidlohr Bueso
2023-02-06 19:15   ` [PATCH 01/18] " Ira Weiny
2023-02-06 21:04   ` Dave Jiang
2023-02-09  0:20   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-02-06  1:02 ` [PATCH 02/18] cxl/region: Add a mode attribute for regions Dan Williams
2023-02-06 15:46   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-06 17:47     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06 16:39   ` Gregory Price
2023-02-06 19:16   ` Ira Weiny
2023-02-06 21:05   ` Dave Jiang
2023-02-09  0:22   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-02-06  1:02 ` [PATCH 03/18] cxl/region: Support empty uuids for non-pmem regions Dan Williams
2023-02-06 15:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-06 18:07     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06 19:22   ` Ira Weiny
2023-02-06 19:35     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-09  0:24   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-02-06  1:02 ` [PATCH 04/18] cxl/region: Validate region mode vs decoder mode Dan Williams
2023-02-06 16:02   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-06 18:14     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06 16:44   ` Gregory Price
2023-02-06 21:51     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06 19:55       ` Gregory Price
2023-02-06 19:23   ` Ira Weiny
2023-02-06 22:16   ` Dave Jiang
2023-02-09  0:25   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-02-06  1:02 ` [PATCH 05/18] cxl/region: Add volatile region creation support Dan Williams
2023-02-06 16:18   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-06 18:19     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06 16:55   ` Gregory Price
2023-02-06 21:57     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06 19:56       ` Gregory Price
2023-02-06 19:25   ` Ira Weiny
2023-02-06 22:31   ` Dave Jiang
2023-02-06 22:37     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-09  1:02   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-02-06  1:03 ` [PATCH 06/18] cxl/region: Refactor attach_target() for autodiscovery Dan Williams
2023-02-06 17:06   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-06 18:48     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06 19:26   ` Ira Weiny
2023-02-06 22:41   ` Dave Jiang
2023-02-09  1:09   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-02-06  1:03 ` [PATCH 07/18] cxl/region: Move region-position validation to a helper Dan Williams
2023-02-06 17:44   ` Ira Weiny
2023-02-06 19:15     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-08 12:30   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-09  4:09     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-09  4:26     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-09 11:07       ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-09 20:52         ` Dan Williams
2023-02-09 19:45   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-02-06  1:03 ` [PATCH 08/18] kernel/range: Uplevel the cxl subsystem's range_contains() helper Dan Williams
2023-02-06 17:02   ` Gregory Price
2023-02-06 22:01     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06 19:28   ` Ira Weiny
2023-02-06 23:41   ` Dave Jiang
2023-02-08 12:32   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-09 19:47   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-02-06  1:03 ` [PATCH 09/18] cxl/region: Enable CONFIG_CXL_REGION to be toggled Dan Williams
2023-02-06 17:03   ` Gregory Price
2023-02-06 23:57   ` Dave Jiang
2023-02-08 12:36   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-09 20:17   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-02-06  1:03 ` [PATCH 10/18] cxl/region: Fix passthrough-decoder detection Dan Williams
2023-02-06  5:38   ` Greg KH
2023-02-06 17:22     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-07  0:00   ` Dave Jiang
2023-02-08 12:44   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-09 20:28   ` Verma, Vishal L
2023-02-06  1:03 ` [PATCH 11/18] cxl/region: Add region autodiscovery Dan Williams
2023-02-06 19:02   ` Ira Weiny
2023-02-07 23:54   ` Dave Jiang
2023-02-08 17:07   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-09  4:07     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06  1:03 ` [PATCH 12/18] tools/testing/cxl: Define a fixed volatile configuration to parse Dan Williams
2023-02-08 17:31   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-09 20:50     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06  1:03 ` [PATCH 13/18] dax/hmem: Move HMAT and Soft reservation probe initcall level Dan Williams
2023-02-06  1:03 ` [PATCH 14/18] dax/hmem: Drop unnecessary dax_hmem_remove() Dan Williams
2023-02-06 17:15   ` Gregory Price
2023-02-08 17:33   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-06  1:03 ` [PATCH 15/18] dax/hmem: Convey the dax range via memregion_info() Dan Williams
2023-02-08 17:35   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-06  1:03 ` [PATCH 16/18] dax/hmem: Move hmem device registration to dax_hmem.ko Dan Williams
2023-02-06  1:04 ` [PATCH 17/18] dax: Assign RAM regions to memory-hotplug by default Dan Williams
2023-02-06 17:26   ` Gregory Price
2023-02-06 22:15     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06 19:05       ` Gregory Price
2023-02-06 23:20         ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06  1:04 ` [PATCH 18/18] cxl/dax: Create dax devices for CXL RAM regions Dan Williams
2023-02-06  5:36 ` [PATCH 00/18] CXL RAM and the 'Soft Reserved' => 'System RAM' default Gregory Price
2023-02-06 16:40   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2023-02-06 18:23     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06 17:29   ` Dan Williams
2023-02-06 17:18     ` Davidlohr Bueso
     [not found] ` <CGME20230208173730uscas1p2af3a9eeb8946dfa607b190c079a49653@uscas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-02-08 17:37   ` Fan Ni
2023-02-09  4:56     ` Dan Williams [this message]
2023-02-13 12:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 18:45   ` Dan Williams
2023-02-14 18:27 ` Gregory Price
2023-02-14 18:39   ` Dan Williams
2023-02-14 19:01     ` Gregory Price
2023-02-14 21:18       ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-14 21:51         ` Gregory Price
2023-02-14 21:54           ` Gregory Price
2023-02-15 10:03             ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-18  9:47               ` Gregory Price

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