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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam01 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 81C6140011 X-Stat-Signature: feugew94rxmc6k9jx4k1u18oiuauz5zh X-HE-Tag: 1781249729-102854 X-HE-Meta: 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 eh/a4Rzx s2HwrE9lq/TmXQjEnKrwA13lTG4c3/3whV1kKDJ9a1C4NWF8wTyvlFOobV5SElxDKgMn8I+RP4UauXGDypzr09YlXcB+dE7eQivgglE4weHtAD9Iocc/ISUUHm2BaKoxwEzi85HotWvbxBDyPjZvnSluB7s5c1H309AuOv7C9axLA5CVSakv3HrndhGNsyWKe4jjT+ASQEU1/iAX6msPdXfNQ+/8rEogKQp9LkKxGW0P0SJ3zOD06S3T2Z/QXB0ZqZOb5luSciNPZ/MVfT8eGl6Z6Cwo0r62hnmAeFGLRUTlQs7tjUS0+cs8oSOEu5JFrQYZ7+pEc0a2oL4D+f3zWsegsWQ== Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 6/12/26 03:29, SeongJae Park wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 12:01:55 +0200 "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" wrote: > >> The droppable test currently relies on creating memory pressure in a >> child process to trigger dropping the droppable pages. >> >> That not only takes a long time on some machines (allocating and filling >> all that memory), on large machines this will not work as we hardcode the >> area size to 134217728 bytes. >> >> ... further, we rely on timeouts to detect that memory was not dropped, >> which is really suboptimal. >> >> Instead, let's just use MADV_PAGEOUT on a 2 MiB region. MADV_PAGEOUT works >> with droppable memory even without swap. >> >> There is the low chance of MADV_PAGEOUT failing to drop a page because >> of speculative references. We'll wait 1s and retry 10 times to >> rule that unlikely case out as best as we can. >> >> On a machine without swap: >> >> $ ./droppable >> TAP version 13 >> 1..1 >> ok 1 madvise(MADV_PAGEOUT) behavior >> # Totals: pass:1 fail:0 xfail:0 xpass:0 skip:0 error:0 >> >> Reported-by: Aishwarya TCV >> Fixes: 9651fcedf7b9 ("mm: add MAP_DROPPABLE for designating always lazily freeable mappings") > > Because this is a fix for a test, I think not Cc-ing stable@ is ok. Further, > arguably this is not a fix but an improvement? No strong opinion, just > thinking loud. The test will hang forever on very large machines and timeout on large machines, so it's a fix not just an improvement. I think Andrew just automatically CCs stable on any test fixes, so yeah, CC; stable makes sense for this one as well. > >> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand (Arm) > > Reviewed-by: SeongJae Park > >> --- >> tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c | 46 +++++++++++++++++++--------------- >> 1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-) >> >> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c >> index 30c8be37fcb9..57e1b6fc5569 100644 >> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c >> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/droppable.c >> @@ -17,10 +17,10 @@ >> >> int main(int argc, char *argv[]) >> { >> - size_t alloc_size = 134217728; >> - size_t page_size = getpagesize(); >> + const size_t alloc_size = 2 * 1024 * 1024; >> + int retry_count = 10; >> + bool dropped; >> void *alloc; >> - pid_t child; >> >> ksft_print_header(); >> ksft_set_plan(1); >> @@ -35,26 +35,32 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[]) >> exit(KSFT_FAIL); >> } >> memset(alloc, 'A', alloc_size); >> - for (size_t i = 0; i < alloc_size; i += page_size) >> - assert(*(uint8_t *)(alloc + i)); >> - >> - child = fork(); >> - assert(child >= 0); >> - if (!child) { >> - for (;;) >> - *(char *)malloc(page_size) = 'B'; >> - } >> >> - for (bool done = false; !done;) { >> - for (size_t i = 0; i < alloc_size; i += page_size) { >> - if (!*(uint8_t *)(alloc + i)) { >> - done = true; >> - break; >> + while (retry_count--) { >> + if (madvise(alloc, alloc_size, MADV_PAGEOUT)) { >> + if (errno == EINVAL) { >> + ksft_test_result_skip("madvise(MADV_PAGEOUT) not supported\n"); >> + exit(KSFT_SKIP); > > This check is for a case that this test is running against an old kernel that > doesn't have MADV_PAGEOUT? Yes! > > Assuming so, I was first thinking this check might not really needed, assuming > the test runner would pick the kselftest code from the running kernel's source > code. But I recalled some people do get kselftest code from random place. So > this check seems nice to me. Yeah, we try to handle older kernels on a best-effort basis. This one is rather simple :) Thanks! -- Cheers, David