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From: jane.chu@oracle.com
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <nao.horiguchi@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>,
	"Gregory Price (Meta)" <gourry@gourry.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 02/15] memory-failure: Prevent hugetlb freeing during unpoisoning
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 14:22:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6447305b-253c-43c4-b8f0-e49d35b106b5@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <anIGuLZ-x2pIb6mg@casper.infradead.org>



On 8/4/2026 8:35 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 03, 2026 at 11: 40: 25PM -0700, jane. chu@ oracle. com 
> wrote: > Patch itself looks good, so Reviewed-by: Jane Chu <jane. chu@  
> oracle. com> Thanks! > That said, there is a pre-existing issue: > 
> folio_free_raw_hwp() should check
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 03, 2026 at 11:40:25PM -0700, jane.chu@oracle.com wrote:
>> Patch itself looks good, so Reviewed-by: Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com>
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>> That said, there is a pre-existing issue:
>> folio_free_raw_hwp() should check HPG_raw_hwp_unreliable, and fail the act
>> of unpoison just like what __update_and_free_hugetlb_folio() does -
>> 
>> static void __update_and_free_hugetlb_folio(struct hstate *h,
>>                                                 struct folio *folio)
>> {
>>         bool clear_flag = folio_test_hugetlb_vmemmap_optimized(folio);
>> 
>>         if (hstate_is_gigantic_no_runtime(h))
>>                 return;
>> 
>>         /*
>>          * If we don't know which subpages are hwpoisoned, we can't free
>>          * the hugepage, so it's leaked intentionally.
>>          */
>>         if (folio_test_hugetlb_raw_hwp_unreliable(folio))
>>                 return;
> 
> I'm not sure I agree with that, but I'm new to hugetlb & hwpoison
> handling, so please check my reasoning.
> 
> We set the unreliable bit when memory allocation fails (ie we can't
> allocate a raw_hwp_page).  That does mean that if we have a real hardware
> error, we can't know which page was poisoned, but for a simulated hwpoison
> which we are now clearing, it doesn't matter which page specifically
> contained the hwpoison.  We're going to unpoison all of the pages in
> this hugetlb folio anyway.
> 
> Maybe there's more to it than that.
> 

First, I take back my comment about a pre-existing issue, because
folio_free_raw_hwp() does call if 
(folio_test_hugetlb_raw_hwp_unreliable(folio)) and bail out if true,
before it calls __folio_free_raw_hwp() to dissolve the list.
So, apology for the false alarm.

Also agreed with you that once a non-simulated hwpoison occurs, unpoison 
will be disallowed for the remaining life time of the kernel.

But I think the reason we don't dissolve the raw_hwp_list if 
PG_raw_hwp_unreliable is set is that, doing so would screw the 
validation tests and maybe some body's monitoring mechanism.
Had PG_raw_hwp_unreliable got set in a non-simulation scenario, 
immediately, OOM could happen, but then, we still lose the hugetlb folio 
for the remaining life of the kernel. Unless someone come up with a 
better solution to replace the raw_hwp_list. :)

thanks,
-jane




  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-04 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-31 20:07 [PATCH v8 00/15] Use generic_file_read_iter() in hugetlbfs Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 01/15] memory-failure: Fix hardware poison check in unpoison_memory() again Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 02/15] memory-failure: Prevent hugetlb freeing during unpoisoning Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
     [not found]   ` <2f5fb8e1-67bb-41ec-af8f-b4da60be4583@oracle.com>
2026-08-04 15:35     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-04 21:22       ` jane.chu [this message]
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 03/15] mm: Rename folio_contain_hwpoison_page() to folio_has_hwpoison_page() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 04/15] hugetlb: Mark some function arguments as const Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 05/15] guest_memfd: Use folio_has_hwpoisoned_page() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 06/15] kpageflags: Use is_page_hwpoison() to set KPF_HWPOISON Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
     [not found]   ` <7a72bcaa-06ed-4485-954b-2376f754eebd@oracle.com>
2026-08-04 15:46     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-04 20:21       ` jane.chu
2026-08-04 16:13   ` Gregory Price
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 07/15] hugetlb: Move poison to pages before clearing hugetlb page type Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 08/15] hugetlb: Use the has_hwpoisoned flag Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
     [not found]   ` <9b2cd903-7800-4c45-bc07-dca0ee40331d@oracle.com>
2026-08-04 16:04     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-04 16:28   ` Gregory Price
2026-08-04 16:42     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-04 18:43       ` Gregory Price
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 09/15] mm: Remove locking mf_mutex in is_raw_hwpoison_page_in_hugepage() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-08-04 16:36   ` Gregory Price
2026-08-04 16:58     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-04 18:47       ` Gregory Price
2026-08-04 20:32       ` jane.chu
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 10/15] mm: Check individual hugetlb pages for poison Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-08-04 19:15   ` Gregory Price
2026-08-04 21:21     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-04 23:01       ` Gregory Price
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 11/15] filemap: Add hwpoison handling to filemap_read() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 12/15] filemap: Remove checks in mapping_set_folio_order_range() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-08-04 21:23   ` Gregory Price
2026-08-05  3:28     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 13/15] hugetlb: Set mapping folio order Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-07-31 20:07 ` [PATCH v8 14/15] filemap: Add support for authoritative mappings Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-07-31 20:08 ` [PATCH v8 15/15] hugetlb: replace hugetlbfs_read_iter() with generic_file_read_iter() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2026-08-04 21:26   ` Gregory Price

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