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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: tj@kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, lizefan.x@bytedance.com,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, longman@redhat.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	kernel-team@cloudflare.com,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	mhocko@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/3] cgroup/rstat: convert cgroup_rstat_lock back to mutex
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 11:02:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <651a52ac-b545-4b25-b82f-ad3a2a57bf69@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkZFnQK9CFofp5rxa7Mv9wYH2vWF=Bb28Dchupm8LRt7Aw@mail.gmail.com>



On 18/04/2024 04.19, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 10:51 AM Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> Since kernel v4.18, cgroup_rstat_lock has been an IRQ-disabling spinlock,
>> as introduced by commit 0fa294fb1985 ("cgroup: Replace cgroup_rstat_mutex
>> with a spinlock").
>>
>> Despite efforts in cgroup_rstat_flush_locked() to yield the lock when
>> necessary during the collection of per-CPU stats, this approach has led
>> to several scaling issues observed in production environments. Holding
>> this IRQ lock has caused starvation of other critical kernel functions,
>> such as softirq (e.g., timers and netstack). Although kernel v6.8
>> introduced optimizations in this area, we continue to observe instances
>> where the spin_lock is held for 64-128 ms in production.
>>
>> This patch converts cgroup_rstat_lock back to being a mutex lock. This
>> change is made possible thanks to the significant effort by Yosry Ahmed
>> to eliminate all atomic context use-cases through multiple commits,
>> ending in 0a2dc6ac3329 ("cgroup: removecgroup_rstat_flush_atomic()"),
>> included in kernel v6.5.
>>
>> After this patch lock contention will be less obvious, as converting this
>> to a mutex avoids multiple CPUs spinning while waiting for the lock, but
>> it doesn't remove the lock contention. It is recommended to use the
>> tracepoints to diagnose this.
> 
> I will keep the high-level conversation about using the mutex here in
> the cover letter thread, but I am wondering why we are keeping the
> lock dropping logic here with the mutex?
> 

I agree that yielding the mutex in the loop makes less sense.
Especially since the raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(cpu_lock, flags) call
will be a preemption point for my softirq.   But I kept it because, we
are running a CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY kernel, so I still worried that
there was no sched point for other userspace processes while holding the
mutex, but I don't fully know the sched implication when holding a mutex.


> If this is to reduce lock contention, why does it depend on
> need_resched()? spin_needbreak() is a good indicator for lock
> contention, but need_resched() isn't, right?
>

As I said, I'm unsure of the semantics of holding a mutex.


> Also, how was this tested?
> 

I tested this in a testlab, prior to posting upstream, with parallel
reader of the stat files.  As I said in other mail, I plan to experiment
with these patches(2+3) in production, as micro-benchmarking will not
reveal the corner cases we care about.  With BPF based measurements of
the lock congestion time, I hope we can catch production issues at a
time scale that is happens prior to user visible impacts.


> When I did previous changes to the flushing logic I used to make sure
> that userspace read latency was not impacted, as well as in-kernel
> flushers (e.g. reclaim). We should make sure there are no regressions
> on both fronts.
> 

Agree, we should consider both userspace readers and in-kernel flushers.
Maybe these needed separate handing as they have separate needs.

>>
>> Signed-off-by: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>
>> ---
>>   kernel/cgroup/rstat.c |   10 +++++-----
>>   1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/kernel/cgroup/rstat.c b/kernel/cgroup/rstat.c
>> index ff68c904e647..a90d68a7c27f 100644
>> --- a/kernel/cgroup/rstat.c
>> +++ b/kernel/cgroup/rstat.c
>> @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
>>
>>   #include <trace/events/cgroup.h>
>>
>> -static DEFINE_SPINLOCK(cgroup_rstat_lock);
>> +static DEFINE_MUTEX(cgroup_rstat_lock);
>>   static DEFINE_PER_CPU(raw_spinlock_t, cgroup_rstat_cpu_lock);
>>
>>   static void cgroup_base_stat_flush(struct cgroup *cgrp, int cpu);
>> @@ -238,10 +238,10 @@ static inline void __cgroup_rstat_lock(struct cgroup *cgrp, int cpu_in_loop)
>>   {
>>          bool contended;
>>
>> -       contended = !spin_trylock_irq(&cgroup_rstat_lock);
>> +       contended = !mutex_trylock(&cgroup_rstat_lock);
>>          if (contended) {
>>                  trace_cgroup_rstat_lock_contended(cgrp, cpu_in_loop, contended);
>> -               spin_lock_irq(&cgroup_rstat_lock);
>> +               mutex_lock(&cgroup_rstat_lock);
>>          }
>>          trace_cgroup_rstat_locked(cgrp, cpu_in_loop, contended);
>>   }
>> @@ -250,7 +250,7 @@ static inline void __cgroup_rstat_unlock(struct cgroup *cgrp, int cpu_in_loop)
>>          __releases(&cgroup_rstat_lock)
>>   {
>>          trace_cgroup_rstat_unlock(cgrp, cpu_in_loop, false);
>> -       spin_unlock_irq(&cgroup_rstat_lock);
>> +       mutex_unlock(&cgroup_rstat_lock);
>>   }
>>
>>   /* see cgroup_rstat_flush() */
>> @@ -278,7 +278,7 @@ static void cgroup_rstat_flush_locked(struct cgroup *cgrp)
>>                  }
>>
>>                  /* play nice and yield if necessary */
>> -               if (need_resched() || spin_needbreak(&cgroup_rstat_lock)) {
>> +               if (need_resched()) {
>>                          __cgroup_rstat_unlock(cgrp, cpu);
>>                          if (!cond_resched())
>>                                  cpu_relax();


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-18  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-16 17:51 [PATCH v1 0/3] cgroup/rstat: global cgroup_rstat_lock changes Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-16 17:51 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] cgroup/rstat: add cgroup_rstat_lock helpers and tracepoints Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-16 21:36   ` Tejun Heo
2024-04-18  8:00     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-23 16:53   ` Simon Horman
2024-04-29 11:36     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-29 17:48       ` Simon Horman
2024-04-16 17:51 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] cgroup/rstat: convert cgroup_rstat_lock back to mutex Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-18  2:19   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-18  9:02     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2024-04-18 14:49       ` Shakeel Butt
2024-04-18 20:39         ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-19 13:15           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-19 16:11             ` Shakeel Butt
2024-04-19 19:21               ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-18 20:38       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-16 17:51 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup/rstat: introduce ratelimited rstat flushing Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-18  2:21   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-18 11:00     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-18 15:49       ` Shakeel Butt
2024-04-18 21:00       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-18 21:15         ` Tejun Heo
2024-04-18 21:22           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-18 21:32             ` Tejun Heo
2024-04-19 10:16         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-19 19:25           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-16 21:38 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] cgroup/rstat: global cgroup_rstat_lock changes Tejun Heo
2024-04-18  2:13   ` Yosry Ahmed

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