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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	a.hindborg@kernel.org, acourbot@nvidia.com,
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Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] Inline helpers into Rust without full LTO
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 13:54:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <65336ad0-ac37-416f-b6ae-e691e3e375ae@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72nwSWVDRqm0Vap5j5X5k+Q-wq8okQ9d3KUgZt6M4CpW9g@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 04:24:59AM +0100, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 4:04 AM Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
> >
> > Rust is already fragmented, because it does not support all
> > architectures. Do we really want to make it even more fragmented by
> > having some bindings only work on a subset of the subset of
> > architectures?
> 
> That is not the case. The `depends on` is not about putting them on
> abstractions, but on this experimental build feature, which is gated
> on `EXPERT` to begin with, because it uses a fairly exotic approach
> involving LLVM bitcode, which carries potential pitfalls, like the
> mismatches on the target string like one of the commit messages
> mentions, and possibly others.

I'm not sure i follow this.

Maybe i should ask a different question.

You said:

> we
> may want to start simple with x86_64 and arm64 or similar first.

The current proposed code for netlink needs this feature, because it
needs access to inline C functions. Is the implication, following a
chain of dependencies, that netlink would only build on x86_64 and
arm64?

If you want netlink on um, arm32, riscv, loongarch you would need a
different implementation of the binding?

And a completely different question. Are there other work in progress
solutions to allow the use of inline C functions? For networking, in
particularly MAC and protocol code, anything which needs to access a
struct sk_buf, a solution to this problem will be required. Do you see
this "fairly exotic approach" as just a sort term bridge until some
other "boring approach" is ready?

	Andrew


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-23 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-03 11:34 [PATCH v2 0/3] Inline helpers into Rust without full LTO Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] kbuild: rust: add `CONFIG_RUSTC_CLANG_LLVM_COMPATIBLE` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03 11:49   ` Will Deacon
2026-02-03 12:02     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-05 10:12   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-03-05 10:51     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-14  0:26   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-02-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] rust: helpers: #define __rust_helper Alice Ryhl
2026-03-14  0:28   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-02-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] build: rust: provide an option to inline C helpers into Rust Alice Ryhl
2026-03-06 17:32   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-14  0:40     ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-03-14 11:22       ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-16 21:34         ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-03-17  8:02           ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-14  0:34   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-03-17  8:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Inline helpers into Rust without full LTO Andreas Hindborg
2026-03-22 19:21 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-22 19:38   ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 13:54     ` Mark Brown
2026-03-23 14:53       ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-22 19:46   ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23  8:49     ` Marek Szyprowski
2026-03-25  1:58       ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23  0:03   ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23  3:04     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-23  3:24       ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 12:54         ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2026-03-23 13:13           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-23 13:28             ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-23 13:34               ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 14:39               ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-23 13:14           ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 10:03     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-03-23 13:26       ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-26 10:10       ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-26 13:47         ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-26 14:31           ` Christian Schrefl
2026-03-26  2:42   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-03-26  5:34   ` David Gow

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