From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] Inline helpers into Rust without full LTO
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 13:54:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <65336ad0-ac37-416f-b6ae-e691e3e375ae@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72nwSWVDRqm0Vap5j5X5k+Q-wq8okQ9d3KUgZt6M4CpW9g@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 04:24:59AM +0100, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 4:04 AM Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
> >
> > Rust is already fragmented, because it does not support all
> > architectures. Do we really want to make it even more fragmented by
> > having some bindings only work on a subset of the subset of
> > architectures?
>
> That is not the case. The `depends on` is not about putting them on
> abstractions, but on this experimental build feature, which is gated
> on `EXPERT` to begin with, because it uses a fairly exotic approach
> involving LLVM bitcode, which carries potential pitfalls, like the
> mismatches on the target string like one of the commit messages
> mentions, and possibly others.
I'm not sure i follow this.
Maybe i should ask a different question.
You said:
> we
> may want to start simple with x86_64 and arm64 or similar first.
The current proposed code for netlink needs this feature, because it
needs access to inline C functions. Is the implication, following a
chain of dependencies, that netlink would only build on x86_64 and
arm64?
If you want netlink on um, arm32, riscv, loongarch you would need a
different implementation of the binding?
And a completely different question. Are there other work in progress
solutions to allow the use of inline C functions? For networking, in
particularly MAC and protocol code, anything which needs to access a
struct sk_buf, a solution to this problem will be required. Do you see
this "fairly exotic approach" as just a sort term bridge until some
other "boring approach" is ready?
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-23 12:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-03 11:34 [PATCH v2 0/3] Inline helpers into Rust without full LTO Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] kbuild: rust: add `CONFIG_RUSTC_CLANG_LLVM_COMPATIBLE` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03 11:49 ` Will Deacon
2026-02-03 12:02 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-05 10:12 ` Nicolas Schier
2026-03-05 10:51 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-14 0:26 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-02-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] rust: helpers: #define __rust_helper Alice Ryhl
2026-03-14 0:28 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-02-03 11:34 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] build: rust: provide an option to inline C helpers into Rust Alice Ryhl
2026-03-06 17:32 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-14 0:40 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-03-14 11:22 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-16 21:34 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-03-17 8:02 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-14 0:34 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-03-17 8:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Inline helpers into Rust without full LTO Andreas Hindborg
2026-03-22 19:21 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-22 19:38 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 13:54 ` Mark Brown
2026-03-23 14:53 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-22 19:46 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 8:49 ` Marek Szyprowski
2026-03-25 1:58 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 0:03 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 3:04 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-23 3:24 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 12:54 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2026-03-23 13:13 ` Gary Guo
2026-03-23 13:28 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-23 13:34 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 14:39 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-23 13:14 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 10:03 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-03-23 13:26 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-26 10:10 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-26 13:47 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-26 14:31 ` Christian Schrefl
2026-03-26 2:42 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-03-26 5:34 ` David Gow
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