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Now we have a multiple >> of that. >> >> Roman - I really think we a way of switching off the 'unrelated to your patch >> but' stuff per-subsystem would be useful. > > I thought about it, but switching it off completely looks dubious to > me. So maybe moderating it a bit can help? Like not reporting completely > unrelated issues or at least do not report them more than once? Or, reporting them *once*, and not as a reply to the patch! After all, it's "unrelated to your patch". So then, don't pollute that patch's review thread, right? That would alleviate the most infuriating part of this cycle, imho. thanks, -- John Hubbard