From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "Barry Song" <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
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"Lorenzo Stoakes" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
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"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
"Maxime Coquelin" <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: BUG_ON to avoid NULL deference while __GFP_NOFAIL fails
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 15:14:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b24cb47-c48f-4ceb-93c9-ad8732e4222e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240819125346.GA7992@lst.de>
On 19.08.24 14:53, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 02:51:06PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 19.08.24 14:49, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 02:33:06PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> It should all be caught during testing either way. And if some OOT module
>>>> does something nasty, that's not our responsibility.
>>>>
>>>> BUG_ON is not a way to write assertions into the code.
>>>
>>> So you'd rather create exploits than crashing on a fundamental API
>>> violation? That's exactly what the series is trying to fix.
>>
>> I'd rather have a sane API that doesn't even allow this level of
>> flexibility with NOFAIL.
>>
>> But probably I'm missing more details here why this all has to be so
>> complicated ;)
>
> Well, the only way to do that is to remove (__)GFP_NOFAIL and require
> either explicit _nofail variants without a way to pass gfp flags, or
> endless loops in the callers. I suggested the first one earlier, but
> no one liked it due to the API complexity and overhead. And I've not
> heard anyone arguing for the latter yet.
Right, and and "allocate more than even possible" case is extremely ugly.
>
> One other way might be a compile time check that requires any GPF
> flag that contains (__)GFP_NOFAIL to be a compile time constants.
> This is true for many but not all callers currently.
Right.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-19 13:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-17 6:24 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm: clarify nofail memory allocation Barry Song
2024-08-17 6:24 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] vduse: avoid using __GFP_NOFAIL Barry Song
2024-08-17 6:24 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm: document __GFP_NOFAIL must be blockable Barry Song
2024-08-17 6:24 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: BUG_ON to avoid NULL deference while __GFP_NOFAIL fails Barry Song
2024-08-19 9:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 9:47 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 9:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 10:02 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 12:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 12:48 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 12:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 17:12 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 20:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 20:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 21:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 22:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-20 6:17 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 12:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-19 12:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 12:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-19 13:14 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-08-19 13:05 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 13:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 13:19 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 13:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-17 6:24 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: prohibit NULL deference exposed for unsupported non-blockable __GFP_NOFAIL Barry Song
2024-08-18 2:55 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-18 3:48 ` Barry Song
2024-08-18 5:51 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-18 6:27 ` Barry Song
2024-08-18 6:45 ` Barry Song
2024-08-18 7:07 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-18 7:25 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 7:51 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 7:50 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 9:25 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 9:39 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 9:45 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 10:10 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 11:56 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 12:09 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 12:17 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 10:17 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 11:56 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 12:04 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 9:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 10:19 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 12:48 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 13:02 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm: clarify nofail memory allocation David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 19:23 ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 19:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 21:48 ` Barry Song
2024-08-20 6:24 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-21 12:40 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-21 22:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 6:21 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 6:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 6:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 7:47 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 7:57 ` Barry Song
2024-08-22 8:24 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 8:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22 9:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 9:16 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 9:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 9:11 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 9:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 9:33 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 9:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 9:59 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 10:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 10:46 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 9:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22 9:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 9:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22 9:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 11:58 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-08-26 12:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-27 6:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-27 7:15 ` Barry Song
2024-08-27 7:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-27 7:50 ` Barry Song
2024-08-29 10:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-29 11:53 ` Barry Song
2024-08-29 13:20 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-29 21:27 ` Barry Song
2024-08-29 22:31 ` Barry Song
2024-08-30 7:24 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-30 7:37 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-22 9:41 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 9:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22 7:01 ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-22 7:54 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 8:04 ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-22 14:35 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-22 15:02 ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-22 6:37 ` Barry Song
2024-08-22 14:22 ` Yafang Shao
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