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From: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>,
	Mikhail Zaslonko <zaslonko@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>, Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 9/9] mm: switch deferred split shrinker to list_lru
Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 16:31:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c138c46-9ef5-4dab-b65f-53f644b507d6@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ahhK3AKksNbJ4zbY@cmpxchg.org>



On 28/05/2026 15:02, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 02:32:06PM +0100, Usama Arif wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 27/05/2026 21:45, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>>> The deferred split queue handles cgroups in a suboptimal fashion. The
>>> queue is per-NUMA node or per-cgroup, not the intersection. That means
>>> on a cgrouped system, a node-restricted allocation entering reclaim
>>> can end up splitting large pages on other nodes:
>>>
>>>         alloc/unmap
>>>           deferred_split_folio()
>>>             list_add_tail(memcg->split_queue)
>>>             set_shrinker_bit(memcg, node, deferred_shrinker_id)
>>>
>>>         for_each_zone_zonelist_nodemask(restricted_nodes)
>>>           mem_cgroup_iter()
>>>             shrink_slab(node, memcg)
>>>               shrink_slab_memcg(node, memcg)
>>>                 if test_shrinker_bit(memcg, node, deferred_shrinker_id)
>>>                   deferred_split_scan()
>>>                     walks memcg->split_queue
>>>
>>> The shrinker bit adds an imperfect guard rail. As soon as the cgroup
>>> has a single large page on the node of interest, all large pages owned
>>> by that memcg, including those on other nodes, will be split.
>>>
>>> list_lru properly sets up per-node, per-cgroup lists. As a bonus, it
>>> streamlines a lot of the list operations and reclaim walks. It's used
>>> widely by other major shrinkers already. Convert the deferred split
>>> queue as well.
>>>
>>> The list_lru per-memcg heads are instantiated on demand when the first
>>> object of interest is allocated for a cgroup, by calling
>>> folio_memcg_alloc_deferred(). Add calls to where splittable pages are
>>> created: anon faults, swapin faults, khugepaged collapse.
>>>
>>> These calls create all possible node heads for the cgroup at once, so
>>> the migration code (between nodes) doesn't need any special care.
>>>
>>> Reported-by: Mikhail Zaslonko <zaslonko@linux.ibm.com>
>>> Tested-by: Mikhail Zaslonko <zaslonko@linux.ibm.com>
>>> Acked-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
>>> Reviewed-by: Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) <ljs@kernel.org>
>>> Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
>>> ---
>>>  include/linux/huge_mm.h    |   7 +-
>>>  include/linux/memcontrol.h |   4 -
>>>  include/linux/mmzone.h     |  12 --
>>>  mm/huge_memory.c           | 364 +++++++++++++------------------------
>>>  mm/internal.h              |   2 +-
>>>  mm/khugepaged.c            |   5 +
>>>  mm/memcontrol.c            |  12 +-
>>>  mm/memory.c                |   4 +
>>>  mm/mm_init.c               |  15 --
>>>  mm/swap_state.c            |  10 +
>>>  10 files changed, 150 insertions(+), 285 deletions(-)
>>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>>> index 135f5c0f57bd..f22e61d8c8de 100644
>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>>> @@ -5222,6 +5222,10 @@ static struct folio *alloc_anon_folio(struct vm_fault *vmf)
>>>  			folio_put(folio);
>>>  			goto next;
>>>  		}
>>> +		if (order > 1 && folio_memcg_alloc_deferred(folio)) {
>>> +			folio_put(folio);
>>
>> Ah sorry, should have caught this in the previous version, do we need
>>
>> count_mthp_stat(order, MTHP_STAT_ANON_FAULT_FALLBACK);
>>
>> here?
> 
> This isn't an allocation we expect to fail with any sort of routine
> that we'd need to capture it in the event counter. It would warn in
> dmesg if it did. But in practice it can't happen at all, since it's a
> sub-costly-order slab allocation and the allocator would loop and OOM
> kill stuff until it succeeds.
> 
>> or maybe we just goto next instead of goto fallback and trty next
>> viable order?
> 
> Again I don't think it matters, but fallback seems a bit more correct
> because the size of the list_lru allocation doesn't change with lower
> orders (until we hit 0).
> 
> So I think we can just leave it as is.

Ack!

Acked-by: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>



  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-28 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-27 20:45 [PATCH v5 0/9] mm: switch THP shrinker to list_lru Johannes Weiner
2026-05-27 20:45 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] mm: list_lru: fix set_shrinker_bit() call during race with cgroup deletion Johannes Weiner
2026-05-28 13:25   ` Usama Arif
2026-05-27 20:45 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] mm: list_lru: lock_list_lru_of_memcg() cannot return NULL if !skip_empty Johannes Weiner
2026-05-27 20:45 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] mm: list_lru: deduplicate unlock_list_lru() Johannes Weiner
2026-05-27 20:45 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] mm: list_lru: move list dead check to lock_list_lru_of_memcg() Johannes Weiner
2026-05-27 20:45 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] mm: list_lru: deduplicate lock_list_lru() Johannes Weiner
2026-05-29  9:56   ` Wei Yang
2026-05-29 13:42     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-05-27 20:45 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] mm: list_lru: introduce caller locking for additions and deletions Johannes Weiner
2026-05-27 20:45 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] mm: list_lru: introduce folio_memcg_list_lru_alloc() Johannes Weiner
2026-05-27 20:45 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] mm: memory: flatten alloc_anon_folio() retry loop Johannes Weiner
2026-05-27 20:45 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] mm: switch deferred split shrinker to list_lru Johannes Weiner
2026-05-28  7:08   ` SeongJae Park
2026-05-28 14:03     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-05-28 13:32   ` Usama Arif
2026-05-28 14:02     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-05-28 15:31       ` Usama Arif [this message]
2026-05-29 17:33   ` Kairui Song

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