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From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	 "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Menglong Dong <imagedong@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 01/18] net: Copy slab data for sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 11:37:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6cf2ea121c4fdbd04682224c5acf6c73cc47f2f7.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1969720.1687511219@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On Fri, 2023-06-23 at 10:06 +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > IMHO this function uses a bit too much labels and would be more easy to
> > read, e.g. moving the above chunk of code in conditional branch.
> 
> Maybe.  I was trying to put the fast path up at the top without the slow path
> bits in it, but I can put the "insufficient_space" bit there.

I *think* you could move the insufficient_space in a separate helped,
that should achieve your goal with fewer labels and hopefully no
additional complexity.

> 
> > Even without such change, I think the above 'goto try_again;'
> > introduces an unneeded conditional, as at this point we know 'fragsz <=
> > fsize'.
> 
> Good point.
> 
> > > +		cache->pfmemalloc = folio_is_pfmemalloc(spare);
> > > +		if (cache->folio)
> > > +			goto reload;
> > 
> > I think there is some problem with the above.
> > 
> > If cache->folio is != NULL, and cache->folio was not pfmemalloc-ed
> > while the spare one is, it looks like the wrong policy will be used.
> > And should be even worse if folio was pfmemalloc-ed while spare is not.
> > 
> > I think moving 'cache->pfmemalloc' initialization...
> > 
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > 
> > ... here should fix the above.
> 
> Yeah.  We might have raced with someone else or been moved to another cpu and
> there might now be a folio we can allocate from.
> 
> > > +	/* Reset page count bias and offset to start of new frag */
> > > +	cache->pagecnt_bias = PAGE_FRAG_CACHE_MAX_SIZE + 1;
> > > +	offset = folio_size(folio);
> > > +	goto try_again;
> > 
> > What if fragsz > PAGE_SIZE, we are consistently unable to allocate an
> > high order page, but order-0, pfmemalloc-ed page allocation is
> > successful? It looks like this could become an unbounded loop?
> 
> It shouldn't.  It should go:
> 
> 	try_again:
> 		if (fragsz > offset)
> 			goto insufficient_space;
> 	insufficient_space:
> 		/* See if we can refurbish the current folio. */
> 		...

I think the critical path is with pfmemalloc-ed pages:

		if (unlikely(cache->pfmemalloc)) {
			__folio_put(folio);
			goto get_new_folio;
		}

just before the following.

> 		fsize = folio_size(folio);
> 		if (unlikely(fragsz > fsize))
> 			goto frag_too_big;
> 	frag_too_big:
> 		...
> 		return NULL;
> 
> Though for safety's sake, it would make sense to put in a size check in the
> case we fail to allocate a larger-order folio.
> 
> > >  		do {
> > >  			struct page *page = pages[i++];
> > >  			size_t part = min_t(size_t, PAGE_SIZE - off, len);
> > > -
> > > -			ret = -EIO;
> > > -			if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!sendpage_ok(page)))
> > > +			bool put = false;
> > > +
> > > +			if (PageSlab(page)) {
> > 
> > I'm a bit concerned from the above. If I read correctly, tcp 0-copy
> 
> Well, splice()-to-tcp will; MSG_ZEROCOPY is unaffected.

Ah right! I got lost in some 'if' branch.

> > will go through that for every page, even if the expected use-case is
> > always !PageSlub(page). compound_head() could be costly if the head
> > page is not hot on cache and I'm not sure if that could be the case for
> > tcp 0-copy. The bottom line is that I fear a possible regression here.
> 
> I can put the PageSlab() check inside the sendpage_ok() so the page flag is
> only checked once.  

Perhaps I'm lost again, but AFAICS:

__PAGEFLAG(Slab, slab, PF_NO_TAIL)

// ...
#define __PAGEFLAG(uname, lname, policy)			\
	TESTPAGEFLAG(uname, lname, policy)			\
// ...

#define TESTPAGEFLAG(uname, lname, policy)				\
static __always_inline bool folio_test_##lname(struct folio *folio)	\
{ return test_bit(PG_##lname, folio_flags(folio, FOLIO_##policy));}	\
static __always_inline int Page##uname(struct page *page)               \
{ return test_bit(PG_##lname, &policy(page, 0)->flags); }
// ... 'policy' is PF_NO_TAIL here

#define PF_NO_TAIL(page, enforce) ({                                    \
                VM_BUG_ON_PGFLAGS(enforce && PageTail(page), page);	\
                PF_POISONED_CHECK(compound_head(page)); })

It looks at compound_head in the end ?!?

> But PageSlab() doesn't check the headpage, only the page
> it is given.  sendpage_ok() is more the problem as it also calls
> page_count().  I could drop the check.

Once the head page is hot on cache due to the previous check, it should
be cheap?

Cheers,

Paolo



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-23  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-20 14:53 [PATCH net-next v3 00/18] splice, net: Switch over users of sendpage() and remove it David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 01/18] net: Copy slab data for sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) David Howells
2023-06-22 18:12   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-22 18:28     ` Alexander Duyck
2023-06-22 19:40   ` David Howells
2023-06-22 20:28     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-22 22:54     ` David Howells
2023-06-23  2:11       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-23  9:08       ` David Howells
2023-06-23  9:52         ` Paolo Abeni
2023-06-23 10:06         ` David Howells
2023-06-23 10:21           ` Paolo Abeni
2023-06-23  8:08   ` Paolo Abeni
2023-06-23  9:06   ` David Howells
2023-06-23  9:37     ` Paolo Abeni [this message]
2023-06-23 10:00     ` David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 02/18] net: Display info about MSG_SPLICE_PAGES memory handling in proc David Howells
2023-06-23  8:18   ` Paolo Abeni
2023-06-23  9:42   ` David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 03/18] tcp_bpf, smc, tls, espintcp: Reduce MSG_SENDPAGE_NOTLAST usage David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 04/18] siw: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather than sendpage to transmit David Howells
2023-06-21  8:57   ` Bernard Metzler
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 05/18] ceph: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather than sendpage David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 06/18] net: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) not sendpage in skb_send_sock() David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 07/18] ceph: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather than sendpage() David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 08/18] rds: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather than sendpage David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 09/18] dlm: " David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 10/18] nvme/host: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather then sendpage David Howells
2023-06-21 10:15   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-06-21 12:35   ` David Howells
2023-06-21 14:05     ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-06-29 14:45   ` Aurelien Aptel
2023-06-29 14:49     ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-06-29 15:02       ` Aurelien Aptel
2023-06-29 21:23     ` David Howells
2023-06-29 21:33       ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-06-29 21:34   ` David Howells
2023-06-29 23:43     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-30 16:10       ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-06-30 16:14         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-30 19:28           ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-07-07 20:45             ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 11/18] nvme/target: " David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 12/18] smc: Drop smc_sendpage() in favour of smc_sendmsg() + MSG_SPLICE_PAGES David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 13/18] ocfs2: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather than sendpage() David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 14/18] drbd: " David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 15/18] drdb: Send an entire bio in a single sendmsg David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 16/18] iscsi: Use sendmsg(MSG_SPLICE_PAGES) rather than sendpage David Howells
2023-06-20 14:53 ` [PATCH net-next v3 18/18] net: Kill MSG_SENDPAGE_NOTLAST David Howells

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