From: "Aubrey Li" <aubreylee@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Robin Getz <rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org>,
"Hennerich, Michael" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dgc@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Limit the size of the pagecache
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:51:39 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d6a94c50701231951o66487813vcd078fc25e25ffa0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0701231908420.6123@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On 1/24/07, Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
> > > 1. Insure that anonymous pages that may contain performance
> > > critical data is never subject to swap.
> > >
> > > 2. Insure rapid turnaround of pages in the cache.
> >
> > So if these two aren't working properly at 100%, then I want to know the
> > reason why. Or at least see what the workload and the numbers look like.
>
> The reason for the anonymous page may be because data is rarely touched
> but for some reason the pages must stay in memory. Rapid turnaround is
> just one of the reason that I vaguely recall but I never really
> understood what the purpose was.
>
> > > 3. Reserve memory for other uses? (Aubrey?)
> >
> > Maybe. This is still a bad hack, and I don't like to legitimise such use
> > though. I hope Aubrey isn't relying on this alone for his device to work
> > because his customers might end up hitting fragmentation problems sooner
> > or later.
>
> I surely wish that Aubrey would give us some more clarity on
> how this should work. Maybe the others who want this feature could also
> speak up? I am not that clear on its purpose.
>
Sorry for the delay. Somehow this thread was put into the spam folder
of my gmail box. :(
The patch I posted several days ago works properly on my side. I'm
working on blackfin-uclinux platform. So I'm not sure it works 100% on
the other arch platform. From O_DIRECT threads, I know different
people suffer from VFS pagecache issue for different reason. So I
really hope the patch can be improved.
On my side, When VFS pagecache eat up all of the available memory,
applications who want to allocate the largeish block(order =4 ?) will
fail. So the logic is as follows:
if request pagecache
watermark = min + reserved_pagecache.
else
watermark = min.
Here, assume min=123 pages, reserved_pagecache = 200 pages. That means
when VFS pagecache eat up its all of available memory, there are still
200 pages available for the allocation of the application. Does that
make sense?
> I hope Aubrey isn't relying on this alone for his device to work
> because his customers might end up hitting fragmentation problems sooner
> or later.
That's true. I wrote a replacement of buddy system, it's here:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/12/30/36.
That can improve the fragmentation problems on our platform.
Christoph - I can't find your original patch, Can you send me again?
it would be great if you merged all of the enhancement.
Thanks,
-Aubrey
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-24 0:49 [RFC] Limit the size of the pagecache Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 2:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-24 3:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 5:47 ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24 3:00 ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-24 3:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 3:51 ` Aubrey Li [this message]
2007-01-24 4:03 ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-26 10:27 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-24 3:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-24 4:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 5:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25 0:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25 2:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25 3:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25 4:28 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25 5:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25 5:40 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25 6:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-26 10:29 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-26 18:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-24 7:04 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-24 7:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-24 12:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-24 12:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-24 14:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 20:06 ` Erik Andersen
2007-01-25 2:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25 8:07 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-24 14:22 ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-25 2:27 ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24 12:33 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-24 14:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25 4:17 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25 4:45 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25 5:49 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25 16:07 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25 17:57 ` Balbir Singh
2007-01-25 6:35 ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-25 6:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25 7:49 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25 4:18 ` Rik van Riel
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2007-01-25 14:51 ` Bodo Eggert
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