From: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, vbabka@suse.cz, rppt@kernel.org,
surenb@google.com, mhocko@suse.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
steven.price@arm.com, gshan@redhat.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] arm64: pageattr: Use walk_page_range_novma() to change memory permissions
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 17:01:51 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6f4c2e70-0702-49d9-acdb-f87adab196ac@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eb0b075a-e6f8-4561-ba3c-3019710847d7@lucifer.local>
On 09/06/25 4:30 pm, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 03:11:59PM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
>> On 06/06/25 3:19 pm, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 02:34:06PM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
>>>> Move away from apply_to_page_range(), which does not honour leaf mappings,
>>>> to walk_page_range_novma(). The callbacks emit a warning and return EINVAL
>>>> if a partial range is detected.
>>> Hm a follow up question here - why not just improve apply_to_page_range() to
>>> honour leaf mappings?
>>>
>>> What does honouring leaf mappings actually mean? You mean handling huge pages?
>>>
>>> Would it be all that difficult to implement?
>>>
>>> It seems like you're pushing a bunch of the 'applying' logic over from there to
>>> a walker that isn't maybe best suited to it and having to introduce an iffy new
>>> form of locking...
>>>
>>> Can we go vice-versa? :)
>>>
>>> Also obviously walk_page_range_novma() doesn't exist any more :P
>>> walk_kernel_page_table_range() is the preferred solution.
>> I cannot see this function in mm-unstable. Also, mm-unstable is broken - I get
>> some RCU message in dmesg, and after some 20-30 second delay the kernel boots.
>> So on which branch do I base my work on...
> mm-unstable shouldn't be broken as that's what should be in -next, concerning!
> Worth investigating... But rebase! :)
>
> Sorry maybe isn't clear as we changed this recently - you should base all
> changes intended for the next release on mm-new.
>
> As I understand it:
>
> - mm-new is the _rawest_ form of the state of mm, Andrew described it as
> the 'crazy' branch that basiclaly has everything.
>
> - mm-unstable is when things have been percolating for a while and are
> considered reasonably stable-ish kinda, but most importantly - ready for
> -next testing. And is what goes to -next.
>
> - mm-stable is gathered shortly before the merge window starts and is all
> the stuff Andrew will send to Linus.
>
> To pick up on the most recent changes therefore use mm-new. Using anything
> else risks issues like this where your patch will conflict, etc.
>
> Another point to note is, during the merge window, mm-new is where changes
> due for the release after the one being currently merged are kept
> (e.g. over the past 2 weeks of 6.16 merge window, this would be changes for
> 6.17).
>
> Not all subsystems even take patches at all during the merge window, but mm
> does.
>
> So especially during merge window it's important to base you changes on
> mm-new.
Thanks. I will base my changes on mm-new.
>
> Cheers, Lorenzo
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-09 11:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-30 9:04 [PATCH 0/3] Enable huge-vmalloc permission change Dev Jain
2025-05-30 9:04 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: Allow pagewalk without locks Dev Jain
2025-05-30 10:33 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-30 21:33 ` Yang Shi
2025-05-30 10:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 9:21 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-06 9:33 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-06 10:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-30 9:04 ` [PATCH 2/3] arm64: pageattr: Use walk_page_range_novma() to change memory permissions Dev Jain
2025-05-30 12:53 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-02 4:35 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-06 9:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 10:39 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-06 10:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 11:08 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-09 9:41 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-09 11:00 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-09 11:31 ` Dev Jain [this message]
2025-05-30 9:04 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/pagewalk: Add pre/post_pte_table callback for lazy MMU on arm64 Dev Jain
2025-05-30 11:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-30 12:12 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-30 12:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-30 9:24 ` [PATCH 0/3] Enable huge-vmalloc permission change Dev Jain
2025-05-30 10:03 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-30 10:10 ` Dev Jain
2025-05-30 10:37 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-30 10:42 ` Dev Jain
2025-05-30 10:51 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-05-30 11:11 ` Dev Jain
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