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From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Cc: Kemi Wang <kemi.wang@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Dave <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi.kleen@intel.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>, Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: Update NUMA counter threshold size
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 10:51:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6f58040a-d273-cbd3-98ac-679add61c337@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170815173050.xn5ffrsvdj4myoam@techsingularity.net>

On 08/15/2017 10:30 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 09:55:39AM -0700, Tim Chen wrote:

>>
>> Doubling the threshold and counter size will help, but not as much
>> as making them above u8 limit as seen in Kemi's data:
>>
>>       125         537         358906028 <==> system by default (base)
>>       256         468         412397590
>>       32765       394(-26.6%) 488932078(+36.2%) <==> with this patchset
>>
>> For small system making them u8 makes sense.  For larger ones the
>> frequent local counter overflow into the global counter still
>> causes a lot of cache bounce.  Kemi can perhaps collect some data
>> to see what is the gain from making the counters u8. 
>>
> 
> The same comments hold. The increase of a cache line is undesirable but
> there are other places where the overall cost can be reduced by special
> casing based on how this counter is used (always incrementing by one).

Can you be more explicit of what optimization you suggest here and changes
to inc/dec_zone_page_state?  Seems to me like we will still overflow
the local counter with the same frequency unless the threshold and
counter size is changed.

Thanks.

Tim

> It would be preferred if those were addressed to see how close that gets
> to the same performance of doubling the necessary storage for a counter.
> doubling the storage 
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-15 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-15  8:45 [PATCH 0/2] Separate NUMA statistics from zone statistics Kemi Wang
2017-08-15  8:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: Change the call sites of numa statistics items Kemi Wang
2017-08-15  9:49   ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-16  2:12     ` kemi
2017-08-15  8:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: Update NUMA counter threshold size Kemi Wang
2017-08-15  9:58   ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-15 16:55     ` Tim Chen
2017-08-15 17:30       ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-15 17:51         ` Tim Chen [this message]
2017-08-15 19:05           ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-16  3:02       ` kemi
2017-08-16  2:31     ` kemi
2017-08-22  3:21     ` kemi
2017-08-22  8:39       ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-22  8:53         ` kemi
2017-08-15 10:36 ` [PATCH 0/2] Separate NUMA statistics from zone statistics Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-08-16  3:23   ` kemi
2017-08-22 21:22 ` Christopher Lameter
2017-08-22 23:19   ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-23  1:14   ` kemi
2017-08-23  4:55     ` Dave Hansen

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