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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Pu Lehui <pulehui@huaweicloud.com>,
	mhiramat@kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	vbabka@suse.cz, jannh@google.com, pfalcato@suse.de,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, pulehui@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/4] mm: Fix uprobe pte be overwritten when expanding vma
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 18:28:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <702d4035-281f-4045-aaa7-3d6c3f7bdb68@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <117e92c1-d514-4661-a04b-abe663a72995@lucifer.local>

On 02.06.25 15:26, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 02, 2025 at 02:26:21PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 02.06.25 13:55, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 08:51:14PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>     	if (vp->remove) {
>>>>> @@ -1823,6 +1829,14 @@ struct vm_area_struct *copy_vma(struct vm_area_struct **vmap,
>>>>>     		faulted_in_anon_vma = false;
>>>>>     	}
>>>>> +	/*
>>>>> +	 * If the VMA we are copying might contain a uprobe PTE, ensure
>>>>> +	 * that we do not establish one upon merge. Otherwise, when mremap()
>>>>> +	 * moves page tables, it will orphan the newly created PTE.
>>>>> +	 */
>>>>> +	if (vma->vm_file)
>>>>> +		vmg.skip_vma_uprobe = true;
>>>>> +
>>>>
>>>> Assuming we extend the VMA on the way (not merge), would we handle that
>>>> properly?
>>>>
>>>> Or is that not possible on this code path or already broken either way?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure in what context you mean expand, vma_merge_new_range() calls
>>> vma_expand() so we call an expand a merge here, and this flag will be
>>> obeyed.
>>
>> Essentially, an mremap() that grows an existing mapping while moving it.
>>
>> Assume we have
>>
>> [ VMA 0 ] [ VMA X]
>>
>> And want to grow VMA 0 by 1 page.
>>
>> We cannot grow in-place, so we'll have to copy VMA 0 to another VMA, and
>> while at it, expand it by 1 page.
>>
>> expand_vma()->move_vma()->copy_vma_and_data()->copy_vma()
> 
> OK so in that case you'd not have a merge at all, you'd have a new VMA and all
> would be well and beautiful :) or I mean hopefully. Maybe?

I'm really not sure. :)

Could there be some very odd cases like

[VMA 0 ][ VMA 1 ][ VMA X]

and when we mremap() [ VMA 1 ] to grow, we would place it before [VMA 0 
], and just by pure lick end up merging with that if the ranges match?

We're in the corner cases now, ... so this might not be relevant. But I 
hope we can clean up that uprobe mmap call later ...

> 
>>
>>
>> But maybe I'm getting lost in the code. (e.g., expand_vma() vs. vma_expand()
>> ... confusing :) )
> 
> Yeah I think Liam or somebody else called me out for this :P I mean it's
> accurate naming in mremap.c but that's kinda in the context of the mremap.
> 
> For VMA merging vma_expand() is used generally for a new VMA, since you're
> always expanding into the gap, but because we all did terrible things in past
> lives also called by relocate_vma_down() which is a kinda-hack for initial stack
> relocation on initial process setup.
> 
> It maybe needs renaming... But expand kinda accurately describes what's going on
> just semi-overloaded vs. mremap() now :>)
> 
> VMA merge code now at least readable enough that you can pick up on the various
> oddnesses clearly :P

:)

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-02 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-29 15:56 [PATCH v1 0/4] Fix uprobe pte be overwritten when expanding vma Pu Lehui
2025-05-29 15:56 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] mm: " Pu Lehui
2025-05-30  9:28   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-30 18:51   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-02 11:55     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-02 12:26       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-02 13:26         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-02 16:28           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-02 17:01             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-03 12:16               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04  1:51                 ` Andrew Morton
2025-05-29 15:56 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] mm: Expose abnormal new_pte during move_ptes Pu Lehui
2025-05-29 19:19   ` Andrew Morton
2025-05-30  1:24     ` Pu Lehui
2025-05-30  3:47       ` Andrew Morton
2025-05-30 10:21   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-30 16:44     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-05-29 15:56 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] selftests/mm: Extract read_sysfs and write_sysfs into vm_util Pu Lehui
2025-05-30 11:48   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-03  7:17     ` Pu Lehui
2025-06-04  2:36       ` Andrew Morton
2025-06-04  8:21         ` Pu Lehui
2025-05-29 15:56 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] selftests/mm: Add test about uprobe pte be orphan during vma merge Pu Lehui
2025-05-30 11:32   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-03  7:08     ` Pu Lehui
2025-06-03  9:56       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-10 10:37   ` Aishwarya
2025-06-10 11:27     ` Pedro Falcato
2025-06-10 11:34       ` Mark Brown

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