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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@arm.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Samuel Holland <samuel.holland@sifive.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: mm: opaque hardware page-table entry handles
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2026 18:38:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <716f73c1-41cc-48a5-b0e1-a47403a30da1@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c21586c-0ffe-4ebc-97f1-803e8acfc5c1@arm.com>


> So after the conversion, it doesn't makes sense to keep STRICT_MM_TYPECHECKS
> around. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> This brings another thing in my mind that in ideal world we would just
> turn STRICT_MM_TYPECHECKS on for all arches all the time. But the problem
> with it is that STRICT_MM_TYPECHECKS defines pte_t which will stay double
> meaning still. So we want sort of STRICT_MM_TYPECHECKS with different name
> and separate stack and hardware types.

I think STRICT_MM_TYPECHECKS is also to avoid catching when passing a pte_t into
a function that consumes a pmd_t, and vice versa.

STRICT_MM_TYPECHECKS makes the compiler generate worse code today, which is why
we don't enable it always.

> 
>>
>> We would like to keep it, and I guess some other architectures too.
> David had summarized it well. We'll convert generic code to use hw_p*_t
> types which would be typedef to p*_t for those architectures which don't
> care about. But if an architecture wants to interpret these types
> differently or want to make sure the type is enforced and not directly
> dereferenced, they need to convert the arch code a well. But it can be
> done slowly.

I think what Alexander meant is: they want to keep STRICT_MM_TYPECHECKS (or
something that achieves something similar :) ). So as long as that keeps on
working, all good :)

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-23 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-24 14:09 mm: opaque hardware page-table entry handles Usama Anjum
2026-06-24 15:52 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-24 22:39   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-06-24 19:25 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-25 10:50   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-06-25 11:08     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-25 12:15       ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
     [not found] ` <31d36023-d728-4eee-90f8-158c7066f565@kernel.org>
2026-07-06 12:52   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-07-07 13:17     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-15 16:15       ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-07-21 12:40         ` Alexander Gordeev
2026-07-23  8:21           ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-07-23 16:38             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-07-23 17:01               ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-07-24  9:30                 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-07-24 10:34                   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-07-24 12:57                     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-07-24  6:47             ` Alexander Gordeev

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