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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Baolin Wang" <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Daniel Gomez" <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
	"Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, hughd@google.com, willy@infradead.org,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, 21cnbao@gmail.com,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com, ioworker0@gmail.com, da.gomez@samsung.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	regressions@lists.linux.dev, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Eero Tamminen <eero.t.tamminen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] mm: shmem: add large folio support for tmpfs
Date: Fri, 2 May 2025 09:18:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <72978e3a-ee67-47d4-b06d-e911bc5d57ff@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57dc4929-268b-4f3f-a0f8-43d6ec85974f@linux.alibaba.com>

On 02.05.25 03:02, Baolin Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2025/4/30 21:24, Daniel Gomez wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 02:20:02PM +0100, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 02:32:39PM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>> On 2025/4/30 01:44, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 03:40:41PM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> This causes a huge regression in Intel iGPU texturing performance.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, I don't have such platform to test it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't had time to look at this in detail, but presumably the
>>>>> problem is that we're no longer getting huge pages from our
>>>>> private tmpfs mount (done in i915_gemfs_init()).
>>>>
>>>> IIUC, the i915 driver still limits the maximum write size to PAGE_SIZE
>>>> in the shmem_pwrite(),
>>>
>>> pwrite is just one random way to write to objects, and probably
>>> not something that's even used by current Mesa.
>>>
>>>> which prevents tmpfs from allocating large
>>>> folios. As mentioned in the comments below, tmpfs like other file
>>>> systems that support large folios, will allow getting a highest order
>>>> hint based on the size of the write and fallocate paths, and then will
>>>> attempt each allowable huge order.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, I think the shmem_pwrite() function should be changed to
>>>> remove the limitation that the write size cannot exceed PAGE_SIZE.
>>
>> To enable mTHP on tmpfs, the necessary knobs must first be enabled in sysfs
>> as they are not enabled by default IIRC (only THP, PMD level). Ville, I
>> see i915_gemfs the huge=within_size mount option is passed. Can you confirm
>> if /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-*/enabled are also marked as
>> 'always' when the regression is found?
> 
> The tmpfs mount will not be controlled by
> '/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-*Kb/enabled' (except for
> the debugging options 'deny' and 'force').

Right, IIRC as requested by Willy, it should behave like other FSes 
where there is no control over the folio size to be used.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-02  7:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-28  7:40 [PATCH v3 0/6] Support large folios for tmpfs Baolin Wang
2024-11-28  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] mm: factor out the order calculation into a new helper Baolin Wang
2024-11-28  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] mm: shmem: change shmem_huge_global_enabled() to return huge order bitmap Baolin Wang
2024-11-28  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] mm: shmem: add large folio support for tmpfs Baolin Wang
2025-04-29 17:44   ` [REGRESSION] " Ville Syrjälä
2025-04-30  6:32     ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-30 11:20       ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-04-30 13:24         ` Daniel Gomez
2025-05-02  1:02           ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-02  7:18             ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-05-02 13:10               ` Daniel Gomez
2025-05-02 15:31                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-06  3:33                   ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-06 14:36                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-28  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] mm: shmem: add a kernel command line to change the default huge policy " Baolin Wang
2024-11-28  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] docs: tmpfs: update the large folios policy for tmpfs and shmem Baolin Wang
2024-11-28  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] docs: tmpfs: drop 'fadvise()' from the documentation Baolin Wang

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