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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
	willy@infradead.org, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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	vishal.moola@gmail.com
Subject: Re: netmem series needs some love and Acks from MM folks
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 08:51:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <72e9f23c-58ca-49c3-baee-f76b91d093ff@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250618000840.GA23579@system.software.com>

On 6/18/25 01:08, Byungchul Park wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 06:09:36PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
...>> 1) have a dedicated data-structure we will allocate alter dynamically.
>>
>> 2) Make it overlay "struct page" for now in a way that doesn't break things
>>
>> 3) Convert all users of "struct page" to the new data-structure
>>
>> Later, the memdesc data-structure will then actually come be allocated
>> dynamically, so "struct page" content will not apply anymore, and we can
>> shrink "struct page".
>>
>>
>> What I see in this patch is exactly 1) and 2).
>>
>> I am not 100% sure about existing "struct net_iov" and how that
>> interacts with "struct page" overlay. I suspects it's just a dynamically
>> allocated structure?
>>
>> Because this patch changes the layout of "struct net_iov", which is a
>> bit confusing at first sight?
> 
> The changes of the layout was asked by network folks, that was to split
> the struct net_iov fields to two, netmem_desc and net_iov specific ones.

That's right, and the moved fields should never be touched without
checking that it's a net_iov first. All of it will eventually converge
to netmem_desc without net_iov sticking out where it shouldn't, but my
personal preference would be to get this merged, as it's a good enough
base, and do the rest on top.

> How to organize struct net_iov further is up to the network folks, but
> I believe the current layout should be the first step.
-- 
Pavel Begunkov



  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-18  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-09  4:32 [PATCH net-next 0/9] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 1/9] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc mirroring " Byungchul Park
2025-06-09 19:32   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-06-10  1:30     ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-12  1:55       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-06-13  1:13         ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-14  2:19           ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-17  2:31             ` netmem series needs some love and Acks from MM folks Harry Yoo
2025-06-17 16:09               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 16:32                 ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-18  0:08                 ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-18  7:51                   ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-06-20  4:12             ` [PATCH net-next 1/9] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc mirroring struct page Byungchul Park
2025-06-11 20:53     ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-12  1:58       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-06-17  2:20   ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-19  9:32   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 2/9] page_pool: rename page_pool_return_page() to page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-10 11:15   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 3/9] page_pool: rename __page_pool_release_page_dma() to __page_pool_release_netmem_dma() Byungchul Park
2025-06-10 11:11   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 4/9] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() to __page_pool_alloc_netmems_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 5/9] netmem: use _Generic to cover const casting for page_to_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 6/9] netmem: remove __netmem_get_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-06-10 11:11   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 7/9] page_pool: make page_pool_get_dma_addr() just wrap page_pool_get_dma_addr_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 8/9] netmem: introduce a netmem API, virt_to_head_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 9/9] page_pool: access ->pp_magic through struct netmem_desc in page_pool_page_is_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-06-09 17:39   ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-10  1:45     ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-11 14:30       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-12  0:39         ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-17  2:37         ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-19  9:55   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-19 10:42     ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-09  6:49 ` [PATCH net-next 0/9] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-06-11 14:25 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-11 20:48   ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-12  0:40     ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-16  7:45     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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