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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: "Harry Yoo (Oracle)" <harry@kernel.org>
Cc: "Harry Yoo" <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>,
	"Michal Clapinski" <mclapinski@google.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Masami Hiramatsu" <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: NULL pointer dereference when booting ppc64_guest_defconfig in QEMU on -next
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 09:31:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7458d8fd-5922-4e0b-9cd5-91880282aaa3@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab1J9ODkX5iChu-C@hyeyoo>

On 2026-03-20 09:21, Harry Yoo (Oracle) wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 08:35:46AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> On 2026-03-20 00:17, Harry Yoo wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/20260227153730.1556542-4-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com/
>>>
>>> @Mathieu: In patch 1/3 description,
>>>> Changes since v7:
>>>> - Explicitly initialize the subsystem from start_kernel() right
>>>>     after mm_core_init() so it is up and running before the creation of
>>>>     the first mm at boot.
>>>
>>> But how does this work when someone calls mm_cpumask() on init_mm early?
>>> Looks like it will behave incorrectly because get_rss_stat_items_size()
>>> returns zero?
>>
>> It doesn't work as expected at all. I missed that all users of mm_cpumask()
>> end up relying on get_rss_stat_items_size(), which now calls
>> percpu_counter_tree_items_size(), which depends on initialization from
>> percpu_counter_tree_subsystem_init().
>>
>> If you add a call to percpu_counter_tree_subsystem_init in
>> arch/powerpc/kernel/setup_arch() just before:
>>
>>          VM_WARN_ON(cpumask_test_cpu(smp_processor_id(), mm_cpumask(&init_mm)));
>>          cpumask_set_cpu(smp_processor_id(), mm_cpumask(&init_mm));
>>
>> Does the warning go away ?
> 
> Hmm it goes away, but I'm not sure if it is it okay to use nr_cpu_ids
> before setup_nr_cpu_ids() is called?

AFAIU on powerpc setup_nr_cpu_ids() is called near the end of
smp_setup_cpu_maps(), which is called early in setup_arch,
at least before the two lines which use mm_cpumask.
  
>> Alternatively, would could use a lazy initialization invoking
>> percpu_counter_tree_subsystem_init from percpu_counter_tree_items_size
>> when the initialization is not already done.
> 
> So this probably isn't a way to go?

I'd favor explicit initialization, so the inter-dependencies are clear.

> Hmm perhaps we should treat init_mm as a special case in
> mm_cpus_allowed() and mm_cpumask().

I'd prefer not to go there if boot sequence permits and keep things
simple.

I think we're in a situation very similar to tree RCU, here is what
is done in rcu_init_geometry:

         static bool initialized;

         if (initialized) {
                 /*
                  * Warn if setup_nr_cpu_ids() had not yet been invoked,
                  * unless nr_cpus_ids == NR_CPUS, in which case who cares?
                  */
                 WARN_ON_ONCE(old_nr_cpu_ids != nr_cpu_ids);
                 return;
         }

         old_nr_cpu_ids = nr_cpu_ids;
         initialized = true;

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-20 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-19 23:37 NULL pointer dereference when booting ppc64_guest_defconfig in QEMU on -next Nathan Chancellor
2026-03-20  4:17 ` Harry Yoo
2026-03-20 12:23   ` Michał Cłapiński
2026-03-20 12:35   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-20 13:21     ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-03-20 13:31       ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2026-03-20 14:20         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-21  1:12           ` Ritesh Harjani
2026-03-21  2:21             ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-23  1:53           ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-03-23  1:53         ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)

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