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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: mpenttil@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/6] Migrate on fault for device pages
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2026 20:58:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <76c5576a-65d2-4dde-a969-ef6577855864@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260211081301.2940672-1-mpenttil@redhat.com>

On 2/11/26 09:12, mpenttil@redhat.com wrote:
> From: Mika Penttilä <mpenttil@redhat.com>
> 
> Currently, the way device page faulting and migration works
> is not optimal, if you want to do both fault handling and
> migration at once.
> 
> Being able to migrate not present pages (or pages mapped with incorrect
> permissions, eg. COW) to the GPU requires doing either of the
> following sequences:
> 
> 1. hmm_range_fault() - fault in non-present pages with correct permissions, etc.
> 2. migrate_vma_*() - migrate the pages
> 
> Or:
> 
> 1. migrate_vma_*() - migrate present pages
> 2. If non-present pages detected by migrate_vma_*():
>    a) call hmm_range_fault() to fault pages in
>    b) call migrate_vma_*() again to migrate now present pages
> 
> The problem with the first sequence is that you always have to do two
> page walks even when most of the time the pages are present or zero page
> mappings so the common case takes a performance hit.
> 
> The second sequence is better for the common case, but far worse if
> pages aren't present because now you have to walk the page tables three
> times (once to find the page is not present, once so hmm_range_fault()
> can find a non-present page to fault in and once again to setup the
> migration). It is also tricky to code correctly. One page table walk
> could costs over 1000 cpu cycles on X86-64, which is a significant hit.
> 
> We should be able to walk the page table once, faulting
> pages in as required and replacing them with migration entries if
> requested.
> 
> Add a new flag to HMM APIs, HMM_PFN_REQ_MIGRATE,
> which tells to prepare for migration also during fault handling.
> Also, for the migrate_vma_setup() call paths, a flag, MIGRATE_VMA_FAULT,
> is added to tell to add fault handling to migrate.
> 
> One extra benefit of migrating with hmm_range_fault() path
> is the migrate_vma.vma gets populated, so no need to
> retrieve that separataly.
> 
> Tested in X86-64 VM with HMM test device, passing the selftests.
> For performance, the migrate throughput tests from the selftests
> show similar numbers (within error margin) as unmodified kernel.
> Tested also rebased on the
> "Remove device private pages from physical address space" series:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20260130111050.53670-1-jniethe@nvidia.com/
> plus a small patch to adjust with no problems.

Stumbling over this in my backlog, so far we have to RB tags.

I'm going to take a look at the core MM bits (soon I hope), but it would
be great if other people could review the HMM bits and provide proper tags.

-- 
Cheers,

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-12 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-11  8:12 [PATCH v5 0/6] Migrate on fault for device pages mpenttil
2026-02-11  8:12 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] mm:/Kconfig changes for migrate " mpenttil
2026-03-17  8:31   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-11  8:12 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] mm: Add helper to convert HMM pfn to migrate pfn mpenttil
2026-03-17  9:05   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-17 13:01     ` Mika Penttilä
2026-03-17 13:45       ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-23 17:58         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-11  8:12 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] mm/hmm: do the plumbing for HMM to participate in migration mpenttil
2026-02-11  8:12 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm: setup device page migration in HMM pagewalk mpenttil
2026-02-11  8:13 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] mm: add new testcase for the migrate on fault case mpenttil
2026-02-11  8:13 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] mm:/migrate_device.c: remove migrate_vma_collect_*() mpenttil
2026-03-12 19:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-03-13  0:27   ` [PATCH v5 0/6] Migrate on fault for device pages Alistair Popple
2026-03-17 10:06 ` Balbir Singh
2026-03-17 10:28   ` Mika Penttilä

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