Linux-mm Archive on lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: William Kucharski <william.kucharski@linux.dev>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>,
	Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>,
	Thorsten Blum <thorsten.blum@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm: add bytes_to_page_end() helper
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 05:53:56 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <775CA5CF-27DF-4495-9FFF-0A0C3A650F87@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <agrmeROd6Xu9m680@lucifer>

(My apologies for the earlier HTML encoding.)

As with Lorenzo's concerns, my biggest issue with this change is that it
becomes unclear what "page" means in this context.

Is it a base PAGE_SIZE page? A 2 MB "large" page? A 1 GB "huge" page on
architectures that support it?

The "rest_of_page()" macro masks that distinction, where the current code’s
explicit reference to PAGE_SIZE makes the basis of the calculation obvious.

I don’t see why we would want to obscure that behind a macro, especially
when it makes the code harder to follow.

Thanks,
    Bill

> On May 18, 2026, at 04:23, Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 09:48:32AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>> On Sun, May 17, 2026 at 11:28:05AM -0400, Yury Norov wrote:
>>> On Sun, May 17, 2026 at 02:34:30PM +0200, Thorsten Blum wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>>> I've got a series for this
>>> 
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260303182845.250bb2de@kernel.org/
>>> 
>>> The feedback is surprisingly negative. Please add people from that
>>> thread. Maybe you'll be more successful convincing them.
> 
> There's a cost to adding yet more super-specific headers where stuff gets hidden
> and people don't know where to put what, things quickly become a mess and header
> dependencies are already a nightmare.
> 
> Also in the case of this helper, I don't see the value in adding a vague,
> untyped, confusingly-named macro when PAGE_SIZE - offset_in_page() is perfectly
> cromulent and clear in what it's doing?
> 
>> 
>> We always can simply fork, but I truly do not understand the pushback.
> 
> Well, be my guest? This isn't a hugely helpful or friendly comment.
> 
>> These are simple macros that are way spread in the kernel, "include everything"
>> kinda linux/mm.h is not needed in vast majority of the users, hence the
>> split is logical step.
> 
> Right but that's completely orthogonal to adding this macro?
> 
> I'm fine with moving offset_in_page() to e.g. mm_types.h.
> 
> But a series that doesn't even give any actual motivation for the change is not
> convicing, and we aren't required to just accept any change.
> 
>> 
>> I'm in favour of this series.
> 
> OK, I'm not :)
> 
>> 
>> --
>> With Best Regards,
>> Andy Shevchenko
>> 
>> 
> 
> Thanks, Lorenzo
> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-18 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-17 12:34 [PATCH 1/3] mm: move offset_in_page() to page_helpers.h Thorsten Blum
2026-05-17 12:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: add bytes_to_page_end() helper Thorsten Blum
2026-05-17 15:28   ` Yury Norov
2026-05-18  6:48     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-05-18 10:23       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-18 11:33         ` William Kucharski
2026-05-18 11:53         ` William Kucharski [this message]
2026-05-18  9:09     ` David Laight
2026-05-18 10:24       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-18  6:49   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-05-18 10:24   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-17 12:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] lib/bitmap: use " Thorsten Blum
2026-05-18 10:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-18  6:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: move offset_in_page() to page_helpers.h Andy Shevchenko
2026-05-18 10:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=775CA5CF-27DF-4495-9FFF-0A0C3A650F87@linux.dev \
    --to=william.kucharski@linux.dev \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=andriy.shevchenko@intel.com \
    --cc=david@kernel.org \
    --cc=liam@infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk \
    --cc=ljs@kernel.org \
    --cc=mhocko@suse.com \
    --cc=rppt@kernel.org \
    --cc=surenb@google.com \
    --cc=thorsten.blum@linux.dev \
    --cc=vbabka@kernel.org \
    --cc=ynorov@nvidia.com \
    --cc=yury.norov@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox