From: William Kucharski <william.kucharski@linux.dev>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>,
Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>,
Thorsten Blum <thorsten.blum@linux.dev>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm: add bytes_to_page_end() helper
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 05:53:56 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <775CA5CF-27DF-4495-9FFF-0A0C3A650F87@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <agrmeROd6Xu9m680@lucifer>
(My apologies for the earlier HTML encoding.)
As with Lorenzo's concerns, my biggest issue with this change is that it
becomes unclear what "page" means in this context.
Is it a base PAGE_SIZE page? A 2 MB "large" page? A 1 GB "huge" page on
architectures that support it?
The "rest_of_page()" macro masks that distinction, where the current code’s
explicit reference to PAGE_SIZE makes the basis of the calculation obvious.
I don’t see why we would want to obscure that behind a macro, especially
when it makes the code harder to follow.
Thanks,
Bill
> On May 18, 2026, at 04:23, Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 09:48:32AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>> On Sun, May 17, 2026 at 11:28:05AM -0400, Yury Norov wrote:
>>> On Sun, May 17, 2026 at 02:34:30PM +0200, Thorsten Blum wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> I've got a series for this
>>>
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260303182845.250bb2de@kernel.org/
>>>
>>> The feedback is surprisingly negative. Please add people from that
>>> thread. Maybe you'll be more successful convincing them.
>
> There's a cost to adding yet more super-specific headers where stuff gets hidden
> and people don't know where to put what, things quickly become a mess and header
> dependencies are already a nightmare.
>
> Also in the case of this helper, I don't see the value in adding a vague,
> untyped, confusingly-named macro when PAGE_SIZE - offset_in_page() is perfectly
> cromulent and clear in what it's doing?
>
>>
>> We always can simply fork, but I truly do not understand the pushback.
>
> Well, be my guest? This isn't a hugely helpful or friendly comment.
>
>> These are simple macros that are way spread in the kernel, "include everything"
>> kinda linux/mm.h is not needed in vast majority of the users, hence the
>> split is logical step.
>
> Right but that's completely orthogonal to adding this macro?
>
> I'm fine with moving offset_in_page() to e.g. mm_types.h.
>
> But a series that doesn't even give any actual motivation for the change is not
> convicing, and we aren't required to just accept any change.
>
>>
>> I'm in favour of this series.
>
> OK, I'm not :)
>
>>
>> --
>> With Best Regards,
>> Andy Shevchenko
>>
>>
>
> Thanks, Lorenzo
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-18 11:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-17 12:34 [PATCH 1/3] mm: move offset_in_page() to page_helpers.h Thorsten Blum
2026-05-17 12:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: add bytes_to_page_end() helper Thorsten Blum
2026-05-17 15:28 ` Yury Norov
2026-05-18 6:48 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-05-18 10:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-18 11:33 ` William Kucharski
2026-05-18 11:53 ` William Kucharski [this message]
2026-05-18 9:09 ` David Laight
2026-05-18 10:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-18 6:49 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-05-18 10:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-17 12:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] lib/bitmap: use " Thorsten Blum
2026-05-18 10:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-18 6:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: move offset_in_page() to page_helpers.h Andy Shevchenko
2026-05-18 10:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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