From: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
To: Brendan Jackman <brendan.jackman@linux.dev>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/16] mm/page_alloc: unify __alloc_frozen_pages[_nolock]_noprof()
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 11:21:20 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <791b1aee-8667-4721-ad93-2a1b8fd2aef1@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DJMJPA37E3V0.39XKKI63O2ETU@linux.dev>
On 7/1/26 2:04 AM, Brendan Jackman wrote:
>>> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
>>> index a3ba63c7f9199..8d409d075e3e9 100644
>>> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
>>> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
>>> @@ -5271,24 +5271,98 @@ void free_pages_bulk(struct page **page_array, unsigned long nr_pages)
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>> +static inline bool alloc_trylock_allowed(void)
>>> +{
>>> + /*
>>> + * In PREEMPT_RT spin_trylock() will call raw_spin_lock() which is
>>> + * unsafe in NMI. If spin_trylock() is called from hard IRQ the current
>>> + * task may be waiting for one rt_spin_lock, but rt_spin_trylock() will
>>> + * mark the task as the owner of another rt_spin_lock which will
>>> + * confuse PI logic, so return immediately if called from hard IRQ or
>>> + * NMI.
>>> + *
>>> + * Note, irqs_disabled() case is ok. This function can be called
>>> + * from raw_spin_lock_irqsave region.
>>> + */
>>> + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT) && (in_nmi() || in_hardirq()))
>>> + return false;
>>> +
>>> + /* On UP, spin_trylock() always succeeds even when it is locked */
>>> + if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SMP) && in_nmi())
>>> + return false;
>>
>> Except for deferred_pages_enabled(), it's not specific to the page
>> allocator. SLUB has
>>
>> /*
>> * See the comment for the same check in
>> * alloc_frozen_pages_nolock_noprof()
>> */
>>
>> ... and repeats the same thing as above.
>>
>> Perhaps let's factor it out into a helper
>> rather than trying not to forget to update the other place?
>
> Hm, not sure about this. I think I would say it's a "coincidence" that
> these two bits of code look the same? Like, page_alloc.c uses
> spin_trylock() so you can't do alloc_pages_nolock() from IRQ on
> PREEMPT_RT. slub.c ALSO uses spin_trylock(), so you ALSO can't use
> kmalloc_nolock() in those scenarios. But those are two different facts
> that just happen to be isomorphic? Putting them into a shared helper
> would kinda imply that these are part of a single system with inherently
> coupled constraints.
But as long as they use spinlocks and can be called in unknown contexts,
they are supposed to have the same constraint?
And actually, the only reason free_pages_nolock() or kfree_nolock()
don't have these checks is just because we don't allow kmalloc() ->
kfree_nolock() or alloc_pages() -> free_pages_nolock(). Once we allow
them, we'll need to repeat this again.
I think it doesn't even belong page/slab allocators,
probably should be spin_trylock_allowed()?
> But I'd lean towards leaving this out of> the patchset since the
potential deduplication isn't really related to
> the other cleanups anyway.
Ack.
--
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-01 2:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-29 13:11 [PATCH v3 00/16] mm: Some cleanups for page allocator APIs Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] mm/page_alloc: rename ALLOC_TRYLOCK -> ALLOC_NOLOCK Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 12:27 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] mm/page_alloc: some renames to clarify alloc_flags scopes Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 12:38 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-30 17:25 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] mm: name some args in a function declaration Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 12:43 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] mm: Split out internal page_alloc.h Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 13:54 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] mm/page_alloc: unify __alloc_frozen_pages[_nolock]_noprof() Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 13:36 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-30 15:34 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-30 16:56 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01 2:10 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-30 17:04 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01 2:21 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2026-06-30 16:16 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-30 18:47 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] mm/page_alloc: relax GFP WARN in nolock allocs Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 13:52 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-30 16:42 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] mm: move some stuff to mm/page_alloc.h Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 16:42 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] perf/x86/intel: Use higher-level allocator API Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] KVM: VMX: " Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 15:31 ` -EXT-[PATCH " Soderlund, David
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] x86/virt: " Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 13:12 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] sgi-xp: " Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 18:47 ` Steve Wahl
2026-06-29 13:12 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] net/funeth: Switch to " Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 13:12 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] mm: Remove __alloc_pages_node() Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 13:12 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] mm: Move __alloc_pages() to mm/page_alloc.h Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 13:12 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] mm: replace __GFP_NO_CODETAG with ALLOC_NO_CODETAG Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 1:55 ` Hao Ge
2026-06-30 10:10 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01 1:47 ` Hao Ge
2026-07-01 1:52 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-30 12:01 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 13:12 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] mm: remove the __GFP_NO_OBJ_EXT flag Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 14:00 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] mm: Some cleanups for page allocator APIs Mike Rapoport
2026-06-29 14:30 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 15:05 ` Brendan Jackman
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