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From: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/sparse: fix BUILD_BUG_ON check for section map alignment
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2026 10:57:58 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7C90E910-D229-4F60-A62D-E893A89D58F2@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32789381-f860-4b60-a1e1-4c97f6ed08b1@kernel.org>



> On Apr 1, 2026, at 04:29, David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> On 3/31/26 13:30, Muchun Song wrote:
>> The comment in mmzone.h states that the alignment requirement
>> is the minimum of PAGE_SHIFT and PFN_SECTION_SHIFT. However, the
>> pointer arithmetic (mem_map - section_nr_to_pfn()) results in
>> a byte offset scaled by sizeof(struct page). Thus, the actual
>> alignment provided by the second term is PFN_SECTION_SHIFT +
>> __ffs(sizeof(struct page)).
>> 
>> Update the compile-time check and the mmzone.h comment to
>> accurately reflect this mathematically guaranteed alignment by
>> taking the minimum of PAGE_SHIFT and PFN_SECTION_SHIFT +
>> __ffs(sizeof(struct page)). This avoids the issue of the check
>> being overly restrictive on architectures like powerpc where
>> PFN_SECTION_SHIFT alone is very small (e.g., 6).
>> 
>> Also, remove the exhaustive per-architecture bit-width list from the
>> comment; such details risk falling out of date over time and may
>> inadvertently be left un-updated, while the existing BUILD_BUG_ON
>> provides sufficient compile-time verification of the constraint.
>> 
>> No runtime impact so far: SECTION_MAP_LAST_BIT happens to fit within
>> the smaller limit on all existing architectures.
>> 
>> Fixes: def9b71ee651 ("include/linux/mmzone.h: fix explanation of lower bits in the SPARSEMEM mem_map pointer")
>> Signed-off-by: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
>> ---
>> include/linux/mmzone.h | 24 +++++++++---------------
>> mm/sparse.c            |  3 ++-
>> 2 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>> 
>> diff --git a/include/linux/mmzone.h b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>> index 7bd0134c241c..584fa598ad75 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/mmzone.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>> @@ -2073,21 +2073,15 @@ static inline struct mem_section *__nr_to_section(unsigned long nr)
>> extern size_t mem_section_usage_size(void);
>> 
>> /*
>> - * We use the lower bits of the mem_map pointer to store
>> - * a little bit of information.  The pointer is calculated
>> - * as mem_map - section_nr_to_pfn(pnum).  The result is
>> - * aligned to the minimum alignment of the two values:
>> - *   1. All mem_map arrays are page-aligned.
>> - *   2. section_nr_to_pfn() always clears PFN_SECTION_SHIFT
>> - *      lowest bits.  PFN_SECTION_SHIFT is arch-specific
>> - *      (equal SECTION_SIZE_BITS - PAGE_SHIFT), and the
>> - *      worst combination is powerpc with 256k pages,
>> - *      which results in PFN_SECTION_SHIFT equal 6.
>> - * To sum it up, at least 6 bits are available on all architectures.
>> - * However, we can exceed 6 bits on some other architectures except
>> - * powerpc (e.g. 15 bits are available on x86_64, 13 bits are available
>> - * with the worst case of 64K pages on arm64) if we make sure the
>> - * exceeded bit is not applicable to powerpc.
>> + * We use the lower bits of the mem_map pointer to store a little bit of
>> + * information. The pointer is calculated as mem_map - section_nr_to_pfn().
>> + * The result is aligned to the minimum alignment of the two values:
>> + *
>> + * 1. All mem_map arrays are page-aligned.
>> + * 2. section_nr_to_pfn() always clears PFN_SECTION_SHIFT lowest bits. Because
>> + *    it is subtracted from a struct page pointer, the offset is scaled by
>> + *    sizeof(struct page). This provides an alignment of PFN_SECTION_SHIFT +
>> + *    __ffs(sizeof(struct page)).
>>  */
>> enum {
>> SECTION_MARKED_PRESENT_BIT,
>> diff --git a/mm/sparse.c b/mm/sparse.c
>> index dfabe554adf8..c2eb36bfb86d 100644
>> --- a/mm/sparse.c
>> +++ b/mm/sparse.c
>> @@ -269,7 +269,8 @@ static unsigned long sparse_encode_mem_map(struct page *mem_map, unsigned long p
>> {
>> 	unsigned long coded_mem_map =
>> 		(unsigned long)(mem_map - (section_nr_to_pfn(pnum)));
>> - 	BUILD_BUG_ON(SECTION_MAP_LAST_BIT > PFN_SECTION_SHIFT);
>> + 	BUILD_BUG_ON(SECTION_MAP_LAST_BIT > min(PFN_SECTION_SHIFT + __ffs(sizeof(struct page)),
>> + 						PAGE_SHIFT));
> 
> If that would trigger, wouldn't the memmap of a memory section be
> smaller than a single page?

I don't think a memory section can be smaller than a page, because
PFN_SECTION_SHIFT is defined as follows:

	#define PFN_SECTION_SHIFT	(SECTION_SIZE_BITS - PAGE_SHIFT)

Therefore, PFN_SECTION_SHIFT must be greater than PAGE_SHIFT. On powerpc,
PFN_SECTION_SHIFT is 6, PAGE_SHIFT is 18 (the worst combination).

Sorry, but I didn't understand what your concern is. Could you elaborate
a bit more?

> 
> Is this really something we should be concerned about? :)
> 

When we continuously increase SECTION_MAP_LAST_BIT, it may trigger issues,
because I expect to catch problems as early as possible at compile time. That
was the motivation behind my change.

Thanks.

> -- 
> Cheers,
> 
> David



  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-01  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-31 11:30 [PATCH] mm/sparse: fix BUILD_BUG_ON check for section map alignment Muchun Song
2026-03-31 19:55 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-31 20:04   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01  2:47     ` Muchun Song
2026-03-31 20:07 ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-01  2:47   ` Muchun Song
2026-03-31 20:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01  2:57   ` Muchun Song [this message]
2026-04-01  2:59     ` Muchun Song
2026-04-01  4:01     ` Muchun Song
2026-04-01  7:08       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01  7:23         ` Muchun Song
2026-04-01  7:26           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01  7:28             ` Muchun Song
2026-04-01 16:33             ` Andrew Morton

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