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From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
To: "zhen.ni" <zhen.ni@easystack.cn>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: surenb@google.com, mhocko@suse.com, jackmanb@google.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, ziy@nvidia.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/4] mm/page_owner: add per-fd filter infrastructure for print_mode and NUMA filtering
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 09:27:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7b2125bb-c2d6-4678-9ae3-6f4e93034391@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5ef656db-c6b6-4a2c-b6be-628e5214952f@easystack.cn>

On 6/17/26 10:52, zhen.ni wrote:
> 在 2026/5/26 03:58, Andrew Morton 写道:
>> On Mon, 25 May 2026 16:16:48 +0800 Zhen Ni <zhen.ni@easystack.cn> wrote:
>> 
>>> This patch series introduces per-file-descriptor filtering capabilities to the
>>> page_owner feature.
>> 
>> Thanks again.  AI review has found a bunch of new things to get worried
>> about:
>> 	https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260525081652.2210206-1-zhen.ni@easystack.cn
>> 
>> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can this lead to an out-of-bounds memory read?
> 
> The NUMA filter in page_owner (mm/page_owner.c:790-798) bypasses
> PF_POISONED_CHECK() to avoid triggering VM_BUG_ON during concurrent page
> allocation/free:
> 
>      int page_nid = memdesc_nid(page->flags);
> 
> When NODE_NOT_IN_PAGE_FLAGS is defined, memdesc_nid() performs unchecked
> array access:
> 
>      int memdesc_nid(memdesc_flags_t mdf)
>      {
>          return section_to_node_table[memdesc_section(mdf)];
>      }
> 
> If page->flags is poisoned, memdesc_section() can return a garbage
> section_nr that causes out-of-bounds access.
> 
> ## Lockless Access Safety Principle
> 
> The page_owner iterator runs without locks, meaning pages can be 
> allocated or freed concurrently. The fundamental design principle should be:
> 
> "It's acceptable to skip a small number of abnormal pages, but panics 
> must be prevented."
> 
> In lockless iteration, TOCTOU is unavoidable - even with reference
> counting or RCU, page->flags can still be modified concurrently during
> access. Zone locks prevent this but are prohibitively expensive.
> 
> ## Proposed Solution: Add nid to struct page_owner
> 
> Record nid at allocation time when page state is stable, eliminating the
> need to extract it from page->flags during iteration:
> 
> ### 1. Modify struct page_owner
> 
>      struct page_owner {
>          unsigned short order;
>          short last_migrate_reason;
>          ...
>          pid_t tgid;
>          pid_t free_pid;
>          pid_t free_tgid;
>          int nid;  // NEW
>      };
> 
> ### 2. Record nid during allocation
> 
>      static inline void __update_page_owner_handle(struct page *page, ...)
>      {
>          int nid = page_to_nid(page);  // Safe in allocation context
> 
>          for_each_page_ext(page, 1 << order, page_ext, iter) {
>              page_owner = get_page_owner(page_ext);
>              page_owner->nid = nid;
>              // ... other fields ...
>          }
>      }
> 
> ### 3. Use saved nid in NUMA filter
> 
>      if (state->nid_filter_enabled) {
>          int page_nid = page_owner->nid;  // Direct read, safe
> 
>          if (!node_isset(page_nid, state->nid_filter)) {
>              spin_unlock_irqrestore(&state->lock, flags);
>              goto ext_put_continue;
>          }
>      }
> 
> ### 4. Update nid on page migration
> 
>      // In split_page_owner() when page migrates
>      page_owner->nid = page_to_nid(&newfolio->page);
> 

This (presumably LLM) suggestion is a, let's say "lazy" solution to the
problem, leading to more memory usage. I'd be surprised if it's not possible
to read the nid in a way that avoids the hazards. If page_to_nid() can
trigger a VM_BUG_ON(), then I'd add a version without that VM_BUG_ON(),
handling the poisoned state gracefully - if it's poisoned, return e.g.
NUMA_NO_NODE and skip the page, or something.

> The remaining two issues can also be improved. If there are no 
> additional comments, I will proceed with sending v10.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Zhen



  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-18  7:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-25  8:16 [PATCH v9 0/4] mm/page_owner: add per-fd filter infrastructure for print_mode and NUMA filtering Zhen Ni
2026-05-25  8:16 ` [PATCH v9 1/4] mm/page_owner: add print_mode filter Zhen Ni
2026-05-25  8:16 ` [PATCH v9 2/4] mm/page_owner: add NUMA node filter Zhen Ni
2026-05-25  8:16 ` [PATCH v9 3/4] tools/mm: add page_owner_filter userspace tool Zhen Ni
2026-05-25  8:16 ` [PATCH v9 4/4] mm/page_owner: document page_owner filter Zhen Ni
2026-05-25 19:58 ` [PATCH v9 0/4] mm/page_owner: add per-fd filter infrastructure for print_mode and NUMA filtering Andrew Morton
2026-06-17  8:52   ` zhen.ni
2026-06-18  7:27     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) [this message]
2026-06-18  8:15       ` zhen.ni
2026-06-23  6:52         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-23 12:43           ` zhen.ni

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