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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Ying Huang <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/numa, mm: Skip page promotion if cpu pid is valid
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2026 12:04:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7dd35e65-e0c2-423d-a82d-c9e488e85e33@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cy0kpfdx.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA>

On 3/31/26 10:33, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Hi, Donet,
> 
> Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com> writes:
> 
>> On 3/26/26 3:59 PM, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>> Is that measurable? Should we at least have a Fixes: ?
>>>
>>> /*
>>>   * When ...
>>>
>>> IIUC, as timestamp we use jiffies_to_msecs(). So, soon after bootup,
>>> we would no longer get false positives for cpupid_valid().
>>> I suppose overflows are not a problem, correct?
>>
>> Thank you, David, for guiding me in the right direction.
>>
>> I initially thought that overflows would not occur, and therefore
>> cpupid_valid() would not produce false positives. However,
>> after looking into it further, it appears that overflow can
>> happen when storing the access time.
>>
>> The last_cpupid field is used to store the last access time.
>> From the code, it appears that 21 bits are used for this
>> (#define LAST_CPUPID_SHIFT (LAST__PID_SHIFT + LAST__CPU_SHIFT)).
>>
>> With 21 bits, the maximum value that can be stored is
> 
> It can be less than 21 bits, if CONFIG_NR_CPUS is small.
> 
> 	DEFINE(NR_CPUS_BITS, order_base_2(CONFIG_NR_CPUS));
> 
>> 2097151ms (35Hrs) . If the access time exceeds this
>> range, it can overflow, which may lead to cpupid_valid()
>> returning false positives.
>>
>> I think we need a reliable way to determine cpupid_valid() that
>> does not produce false positives.
> 
> Yes.  IMHO, false positives is unavoidable.  So, the patch fixes a
> temporal performance issue at the cost of a longstanding performance
> issue.  Right?


Could we set aside a bit to indicate "cpuid vs. time" ? We'd lose one
bit for time, to we care?

Would make it all easier to get ...

-- 
Cheers,

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-31 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-26  7:12 [PATCH] sched/numa, mm: Skip page promotion if cpu pid is valid Donet Tom
2026-03-26 10:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27 18:54   ` Donet Tom
2026-03-31  8:33     ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-31  9:03       ` Donet Tom
2026-03-31  9:17         ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-31 10:00           ` Donet Tom
2026-03-31 10:04       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-03-31 15:02         ` Donet Tom
2026-04-01  9:48         ` Huang, Ying

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