From: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>, Luke Yang <luyang@redhat.com>,
jhladky@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] mm/mprotect: un-inline folio_pte_batch_flags()
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 10:34:29 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7rr3jgdcjiizwzfivhrcqdacq5bt6hschv2isnfsmrqpuhr4c7@vbmtp5qtbs7x> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2da1181c-165d-49cd-94cb-5ccbd3bb93b3@lucifer.local>
On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 07:14:38PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 06:31:07PM +0000, Pedro Falcato wrote:
> > Hoist some previous, important to be inlined checks to the main loop
> > and noinline the entirety of folio_pte_batch_flags(). The loop itself is
> > quite large and whether it is inlined or not should not matter, as we
> > are ideally dealing with larger orders.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
> > ---
> > mm/mprotect.c | 16 +++++++---------
> > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/mprotect.c b/mm/mprotect.c
> > index 8d4fa38a8a26..aa845f5bf14d 100644
> > --- a/mm/mprotect.c
> > +++ b/mm/mprotect.c
> > @@ -103,16 +103,9 @@ bool can_change_pte_writable(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long addr,
> > return can_change_shared_pte_writable(vma, pte);
> > }
> >
> > -static __always_inline int mprotect_folio_pte_batch(struct folio *folio, pte_t *ptep,
> > +static noinline int mprotect_folio_pte_batch(struct folio *folio, pte_t *ptep,
>
> Hmm I'm iffy about noinline-ing a 1 line function now?
Well, it's a 1 line function that itself (probably) has an inlined
folio_pte_batch_flags() with a bunch of inlined functions, calls, etc. But yes, I
see your point.
>
> And now yu're noinlining something that contains an inline (but not guaranteed
> to be function, it's a bit strange overall?
>
> > pte_t pte, int max_nr_ptes, fpb_t flags)
> > {
> > - /* No underlying folio, so cannot batch */
> > - if (!folio)
> > - return 1;
> > -
> > - if (!folio_test_large(folio))
> > - return 1;
> > -
> > return folio_pte_batch_flags(folio, NULL, ptep, &pte, max_nr_ptes, flags);
> > }
> >
> > @@ -333,7 +326,12 @@ static long change_pte_range(struct mmu_gather *tlb,
> > continue;
> > }
> >
>
> ^^^ up here is a mprotect_folio_pte_batch() invocation for the prot_numa case,
> which now won't be doing:
Yep, this is a bug (that sashiko also caught!)
>
> if (!folio)
> return 1;
>
> if (!folio_test_large(folio))
> return 1;
>
> At all, so isn't that potentially a pessimisation in itself?
>
>
> > - nr_ptes = mprotect_folio_pte_batch(folio, pte, oldpte, max_nr_ptes, flags);
> > + /* No underlying folio (or not large), so cannot batch */
> > + if (likely(!folio || !folio_test_large(folio)))
>
> We actually sure of this likely()? Is there data to support it? Am not a fan of
> using likely()/unlikey() without something to back it.
I did a small little test yesterday with bpftrace + a kernel build +
filemap_get_folio. I got a staggering majority of order-0 folios, with some
smaller folios spread out across a bunch of orders (up to 8, iirc). Of course
I'm on x86 so I don't have mTHP, etc enabled, so those will all be order-0 or
PMD_ORDER folios (which we won't see here).
>
> > + nr_ptes = 1;
> > + else
> > + nr_ptes = mprotect_folio_pte_batch(folio, pte, oldpte,
> > + max_nr_ptes, flags);
>
> It's also pretty gross to throw this out into a massive function.
>
> >
> > oldpte = modify_prot_start_ptes(vma, addr, pte, nr_ptes);
> > ptent = pte_modify(oldpte, newprot);
> > --
> > 2.53.0
> >
>
> This is all seems VERY delicate, and subject to somebody else coming along and
> breaking it/causing some of these noinline/__always_inline invocations to make
> things far worse.
Who told you optimization isn't delicate?!
>
> I also reserve the right to seriously rework this pile of crap software.
>
> I'd rather we try to find less fragile ways to optimise!
But yes, I understand your point. Hm. I'll need to think about this some more.
There's nothing I would love more than to simply slap a
if (pte_batch_hint(ptep, pte) == 1)
nr_ptes = 1;
on !contpte archs. I don't see where most of the wins for those architectures
would exist, but apparently they do. Confusing :/
>
> Maybe there's some steps that are bigger wins than others?
Definitely :) So yeah I'll probably be dropping this patch, or at least
reworking this one a good bit.
--
Pedro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-20 10:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-19 18:31 [PATCH 0/4] mm/mprotect: micro-optimization work Pedro Falcato
2026-03-19 18:31 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm/mprotect: encourage inlining with __always_inline Pedro Falcato
2026-03-19 18:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-19 19:00 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-19 21:28 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-20 9:59 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-03-20 10:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-19 18:31 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm/mprotect: move softleaf code out of the main function Pedro Falcato
2026-03-19 19:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-19 21:33 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-20 10:04 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-03-20 10:07 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-20 10:54 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-19 18:31 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm/mprotect: un-inline folio_pte_batch_flags() Pedro Falcato
2026-03-19 19:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-19 21:41 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-20 10:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-20 10:59 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-03-20 11:02 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-20 11:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-20 11:01 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-20 11:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-23 12:56 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-20 10:34 ` Pedro Falcato [this message]
2026-03-20 10:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-19 18:31 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm/mprotect: special-case small folios when applying write permissions Pedro Falcato
2026-03-19 19:17 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-20 10:36 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-03-20 10:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-19 21:43 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-20 10:37 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-03-20 2:42 ` [PATCH 0/4] mm/mprotect: micro-optimization work Andrew Morton
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