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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
	willy@infradead.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
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	ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org, hawk@kernel.org,
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	ziy@nvidia.com, jackmanb@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v7 1/7] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc mirroring struct page
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 11:23:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <839d5486-a92a-4ae8-a536-b4a0e3d595ea@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250714184743.4acd7ead@kernel.org>

On 7/15/25 02:47, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 22:58:31 +0900 Harry Yoo wrote:
>>>> Could you please share your thoughts on why it's hard to judge them and
>>>> what's missing from the series, such as in the comments, changelog, or
>>>> the cover letter?
> 
> My main concern (as shared on earlier revisions) is the type hierarchy

Quick overview. struct netmem_desc is a common denominator b/w pp pages
and net_iov, and contains fields used by the pp generic path, e.g.
refcount, dma_addr. Before, pp was using type casting hacks to keep
code generic with some overhead on bit masking, now it'll be able to
look up netmem_desc from a netmem and use it directly.

That's pretty much what I was suggesting niov / page aliasing to be
1+ years ago, but unfortunately that didn't happen. It definitely
removes some type casting hackiness.

> exposed to the drivers. 

v10 adds a bunch of "pp_page_to_nmdesc(page)->pp" in the drivers,
Not sure I have a strong opinion, but it can be turned into a helper.

Converting things back and forth or blindly
> downcasting to netmem and upcasting back to the CPU-readable type is
> no good.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-15 10:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-25  4:33 [PATCH net-next v7 0/7] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-06-25  4:33 ` [PATCH net-next v7 1/7] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc mirroring " Byungchul Park
2025-06-27  0:49   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-06-27  3:54     ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-28  0:37       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-06-29 23:34         ` Harry Yoo
2025-07-01 23:45           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-07  0:21             ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-07 18:42               ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-14  9:42             ` Harry Yoo
2025-07-14 13:24               ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-14 13:58                 ` Harry Yoo
2025-07-15  1:47                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-15  2:08                     ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-15 10:23                     ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-06-25  4:33 ` [PATCH net-next v7 2/7] page_pool: rename page_pool_return_page() to page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-25  4:33 ` [PATCH net-next v7 3/7] page_pool: rename __page_pool_release_page_dma() to __page_pool_release_netmem_dma() Byungchul Park
2025-06-25  4:33 ` [PATCH net-next v7 4/7] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() to __page_pool_alloc_netmems_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-06-25  4:33 ` [PATCH net-next v7 5/7] netmem: use _Generic to cover const casting for page_to_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-25  4:33 ` [PATCH net-next v7 6/7] page_pool: make page_pool_get_dma_addr() just wrap page_pool_get_dma_addr_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-25  4:33 ` [PATCH net-next v7 7/7] netmem: introduce a netmem API, virt_to_head_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-27  0:49   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-06-26  6:41 ` [PATCH net-next v7 0/7] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-06-27  0:50   ` Jakub Kicinski

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