From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Ying Huang <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/numa, mm: Skip page promotion if cpu pid is valid
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2026 17:48:23 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874ilvui3c.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7dd35e65-e0c2-423d-a82d-c9e488e85e33@kernel.org> (David Hildenbrand's message of "Tue, 31 Mar 2026 12:04:10 +0200")
"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org> writes:
> On 3/31/26 10:33, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Hi, Donet,
>>
>> Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 3/26/26 3:59 PM, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>>> Is that measurable? Should we at least have a Fixes: ?
>>>>
>>>> /*
>>>> * When ...
>>>>
>>>> IIUC, as timestamp we use jiffies_to_msecs(). So, soon after bootup,
>>>> we would no longer get false positives for cpupid_valid().
>>>> I suppose overflows are not a problem, correct?
>>>
>>> Thank you, David, for guiding me in the right direction.
>>>
>>> I initially thought that overflows would not occur, and therefore
>>> cpupid_valid() would not produce false positives. However,
>>> after looking into it further, it appears that overflow can
>>> happen when storing the access time.
>>>
>>> The last_cpupid field is used to store the last access time.
>>> From the code, it appears that 21 bits are used for this
>>> (#define LAST_CPUPID_SHIFT (LAST__PID_SHIFT + LAST__CPU_SHIFT)).
>>>
>>> With 21 bits, the maximum value that can be stored is
>>
>> It can be less than 21 bits, if CONFIG_NR_CPUS is small.
>>
>> DEFINE(NR_CPUS_BITS, order_base_2(CONFIG_NR_CPUS));
>>
>>> 2097151ms (35Hrs) . If the access time exceeds this
>>> range, it can overflow, which may lead to cpupid_valid()
>>> returning false positives.
>>>
>>> I think we need a reliable way to determine cpupid_valid() that
>>> does not produce false positives.
>>
>> Yes. IMHO, false positives is unavoidable. So, the patch fixes a
>> temporal performance issue at the cost of a longstanding performance
>> issue. Right?
>
>
> Could we set aside a bit to indicate "cpuid vs. time" ? We'd lose one
> bit for time, to we care?
Do we need one more bit for time and cpupid? However, page flags are
precious resources.
> Would make it all easier to get ...
---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-01 9:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-26 7:12 [PATCH] sched/numa, mm: Skip page promotion if cpu pid is valid Donet Tom
2026-03-26 10:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27 18:54 ` Donet Tom
2026-03-31 8:33 ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-31 9:03 ` Donet Tom
2026-03-31 9:17 ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-31 10:00 ` Donet Tom
2026-03-31 10:04 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-31 15:02 ` Donet Tom
2026-04-01 9:48 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
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