From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Ying Huang <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/numa, mm: Skip page promotion if cpu pid is valid
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2026 17:17:02 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <875x6cpddd.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eb9d54b5-6fe0-45b6-9a8d-aa117ccd3c0e@linux.ibm.com> (Donet Tom's message of "Tue, 31 Mar 2026 14:33:10 +0530")
Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com> writes:
> Hi
>
> On 3/31/26 2:03 PM, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Hi, Donet,
>>
>> Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 3/26/26 3:59 PM, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>>> On 3/26/26 08:12, Donet Tom wrote:
>>>>> If memory tiering is disabled, cpupid of slow memory pages may
>>>>> contain a valid CPU and PID. If tiering is enabled at runtime,
>>>>> there is a chance that in should_numa_migrate_memory(), this
>>>>> valid CPU/PID is treated as a last access timestamp, leading
>>>>> to unnecessary promotion.
>>>> Is that measurable? Should we at least have a Fixes: ?
>>>>
>>>>> Prevent this by skipping promotion when cpupid is valid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> kernel/sched/fair.c | 7 +++++++
>>>>> 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>>> index 4b43809a3fb1..f5830a5a94d5 100644
>>>>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>>> @@ -2001,6 +2001,13 @@ bool should_numa_migrate_memory(struct task_struct *p, struct folio *folio,
>>>>> unsigned int latency, th, def_th;
>>>>> long nr = folio_nr_pages(folio);
>>>>>
>>>> /*
>>>> * When ...
>>>>
>>>>> + /* When tiering is enabled at runtime, last_cpupid may
>>>>> + * hold a valid cpupid instead of an access timestamp.
>>>>> + * If so, skip page promotion.
>>>>> + */
>>>>> + if (cpupid_valid(folio_last_cpupid(folio)))
>>>>> + return false;
>>>>> +
>>>> IIUC, as timestamp we use jiffies_to_msecs(). So, soon after bootup,
>>>> we would no longer get false positives for cpupid_valid().
>>>> I suppose overflows are not a problem, correct?
>>> Thank you, David, for guiding me in the right direction.
>>>
>>> I initially thought that overflows would not occur, and therefore
>>> cpupid_valid() would not produce false positives. However,
>>> after looking into it further, it appears that overflow can
>>> happen when storing the access time.
>>>
>>> The last_cpupid field is used to store the last access time.
>>> From the code, it appears that 21 bits are used for this
>>> (#define LAST_CPUPID_SHIFT (LAST__PID_SHIFT + LAST__CPU_SHIFT)).
>>>
>>> With 21 bits, the maximum value that can be stored is
>> It can be less than 21 bits, if CONFIG_NR_CPUS is small.
>>
>> DEFINE(NR_CPUS_BITS, order_base_2(CONFIG_NR_CPUS));
>>
>>> 2097151ms (35Hrs) . If the access time exceeds this
>>> range, it can overflow, which may lead to cpupid_valid()
>>> returning false positives.
>>>
>>> I think we need a reliable way to determine cpupid_valid() that
>>> does not produce false positives.
>> Yes. IMHO, false positives is unavoidable. So, the patch fixes a
>> temporal performance issue at the cost of a longstanding performance
>> issue. Right?
>
>
> I was trying to fix a functional issue. When memory tiering is
>
> enabled at runtime, treating last_cpupid as access time is incorrect, right?
I don't think that it's a functional issue. It has only performance
impact. Did you find any functionality bug?
---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-31 9:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-26 7:12 [PATCH] sched/numa, mm: Skip page promotion if cpu pid is valid Donet Tom
2026-03-26 10:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27 18:54 ` Donet Tom
2026-03-31 8:33 ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-31 9:03 ` Donet Tom
2026-03-31 9:17 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2026-03-31 10:00 ` Donet Tom
2026-03-31 10:04 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-31 15:02 ` Donet Tom
2026-04-01 9:48 ` Huang, Ying
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