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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Michael Rubin <mrubin@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, jack@suse.cz, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	david@fromorbit.com, hch@lst.de, axboe@kernel.dk
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] writeback: tracking subsystems causing writeback
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:23:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eig2ixez.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimhsQdLV7UeMppz8mwzQPUfDQbvdNdOCiVnxdKM@mail.gmail.com> (Michael Rubin's message of "Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:49:34 -0700")

Michael Rubin <mrubin@google.com> writes:
>
> I agree. This would put the kernel in a box a bit. Some of them
> (sys_sync, periodic writeback, free_more_memory) I feel are generic
> enough concepts that with some rewording of the labels they could be
> exposed with no issue. "Balance_dirty_pages" is an example where that
> won't work.

Yes some rewording would be good.

> Are there alternatives to this? Maybe tracepoints that are compiled to be on?
> A CONFIG_WRITEBACK_DEBUG that would expose this file?

The classic way is to put it into debugfs which has a appropiate
disclaimer.

(although I fear we're weaning apps that depend on debugfs too
The growing ftrace user space code seems to all depend on debugfs)

> Having this set of info readily available and collected makes
> debugging a lot easier. But I admit I am not sure the best way to
> expose them.

Maybe we just need a simpler writeback path that is not as complicated
to debug. 

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-19 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-19  0:30 [PATCH 0/3] writeback visibility Michael Rubin
2010-06-19  0:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] writeback: Creating /sys/kernel/mm/writeback/writeback Michael Rubin
2010-06-19 10:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-19 17:44     ` Michael Rubin
2010-06-19  0:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] writeback: per bdi monitoring Michael Rubin
2010-06-19  0:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] writeback: tracking subsystems causing writeback Michael Rubin
2010-06-19  8:17   ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 17:49     ` Michael Rubin
2010-06-19 20:23       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2010-06-20 23:10 ` [PATCH 0/3] writeback visibility Dave Chinner
2010-06-21 17:09   ` Michael Rubin
2010-06-24  0:02     ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-25  7:15       ` Michael Rubin

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