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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Walter Wu <walter-zh.wu@mediatek.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>, Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>
Cc: kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	wsd_upstream <wsd_upstream@mediatek.com>,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	Walter Wu <walter-zh.wu@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/6] timer: kasan: record timer stack
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:41:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h7rm97js.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200924040335.30934-1-walter-zh.wu@mediatek.com>

On Thu, Sep 24 2020 at 12:03, Walter Wu wrote:
> When analyze use-after-free or double-free issue, recording the timer
> stacks is helpful to preserve usage history which potentially gives
> a hint about the affected code.
>
> Record the most recent two timer init calls in KASAN which are printed
> on failure in the KASAN report.
>
> For timers it has turned out to be useful to record the stack trace
> of the timer init call.

In which way? And what kind of bug does it catch which cannot be catched
by existing debug mechanisms already?

> Because if the UAF root cause is in timer init, then user can see
> KASAN report to get where it is registered and find out the root
> cause.

What? If the UAF root cause is in timer init, then registering it after
using it in that very same function is pretty pointless.

> It don't need to enable DEBUG_OBJECTS_TIMERS, but they have a chance
> to find out the root cause.

There is a lot of handwaving how useful this is, but TBH I don't see the
value at all.

DEBUG_OBJECTS_TIMERS does a lot more than crashing on UAF. If KASAN
provides additional value over DEBUG_OBJECTS_TIMERS then spell it out,
but just saying that you don't need to enable DEBUG_OBJECTS_TIMERS is
not making an argument for that change.

Try again please.

Thanks,

        tglx


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-24 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-24  4:03 [PATCH v4 1/6] timer: kasan: record timer stack Walter Wu
2020-09-24 21:41 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2020-09-25  7:18   ` Walter Wu
2020-09-25  8:55     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-25  9:15       ` Walter Wu
2020-09-25 22:59         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-26 17:11           ` Walter Wu
2020-09-30  7:18             ` Thomas Gleixner

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