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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: "Garg, Shivank" <shivankg@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 4/6] mm/migrate: add copy offload registration infrastructure
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2026 15:40:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ldezfcbj.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70414c31-d928-41a6-89db-eeb0f34ec07d@amd.com> (Shivank Garg's message of "Fri, 3 Apr 2026 16:41:06 +0530")

"Garg, Shivank" <shivankg@amd.com> writes:

> On 3/24/2026 4:24 PM, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Shivank Garg <shivankg@amd.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Introduce CONFIG_MIGRATION_COPY_OFFLOAD, which lets offload driver
>> 
>> Do we really need a new kconfig option?  IMHO, we have too many now.
>> Because we have a jump label already, the performance difference should
>> be trivial.  Can you measure the size difference?
>
> BASELINE (offload=n)
>    text    data     bss     dec  filename
>   23577    1632      32   25241  mm/migrate.o
> 39202900        14159750        6502152 59864802     vmlinux
>
> WITH OFFLOAD (offload=y)
>    text    data     bss     dec  filename
>   24444    2568      32   27044  mm/migrate.o
>     676      64       8     748  mm/migrate_copy_offload.o
> 39208218        14163942        6498120 59870280     vmlinux
>
> WITHOUT CONFIG (always-on)
>    text    data     bss     dec  filename
>   24444    2568      32   27044  mm/migrate.o
>     676      64       8     748  mm/migrate_copy_offload.o
> 39208405        14163942        6498120 59870467     vmlinux
>
> It saves around 5.5KB of size, when offload support is disabled.
> Is it meaningful savings? What do you think?

The size difference of "vmlinux" is 5.5KB.  While that of *.o is 2.55k.
Not too big for me.

From another point of view, if we will add kconfig for "migrator"
implementations, we can make this general kconfig option invisible and
be selected automatically?

>> 
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_MIGRATION_COPY_OFFLOAD
>>> +extern struct static_key_false migrate_offload_enabled;
>>> +extern struct srcu_struct migrate_offload_srcu;
>>> +bool migrate_should_batch_default(int reason);
>>> +int migrate_offload_start(struct migrator *m);
>>> +int migrate_offload_stop(struct migrator *m);
>> 
>> Why not naming the function migrate_offload_register/unregister()?
>> IMHO, that sounds more natural.
>
> Ack. I'll rename to migrate_offload_register/unregister().
>
>> 
>>>  
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_MIGRATION_COPY_OFFLOAD
>>> +	/* Check if the offload driver wants to batch for this reason */
>>> +	if (static_branch_unlikely(&migrate_offload_enabled))
>>> +		do_batch = static_call(migrate_should_batch)(reason);
>> 
>> Should batching based on "reason" be determined by the general migrate
>> code instead of the migrator implementation?  For example, if we only
>> batch copying for ASYNC migration, we should determine that in
>> migrate_pages_batch() instead of the migreation implementation.  Or am I
>> missed something?  If so, can you provide an example?
>> 
>
> My idea was that different drivers may have different cost/benefit
> profiles(e.g. setup cost, migrate batch-size, etc..) 
>
> For instance, a DMA driver may want to target only bulk migration usecase.
> And a CPU-thread based driver can be used more broadly, without worrying
> about setup-costs.
>
> But I agree it's premature with only one-driver.
> I'll move the reason check with target usecases into migrate_pages_batch()
> and drop the should_batch() callback. If a future driver needs different
> filtering, we can add it back then.

In general, I think that "reason" based policy should be in the general
migrate_pages function.  While "batch size" based policy can be in the
migrator implementations.

>>>  
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_MIGRATION_COPY_OFFLOAD
>>>  	/* Batch-copy eligible folios before the move phase */
>>>  	if (!list_empty(&src_batch)) {
>> 
>> Guard with "static_branch_unlikely(&migrate_offload_enabled)" first?
>> Better to define a inline function to shorten the expression.
>> 
>
> Sure, will add the static_branch_unlikely guard and wrap in a helper
> function. Thanks.

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-07  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-09 12:07 [RFC PATCH v4 0/6] Accelerate page migration with batch copying and hardware offload Shivank Garg
2026-03-09 12:07 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/6] mm: introduce folios_mc_copy() for batch folio copying Shivank Garg
2026-03-12  9:41   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-15 18:09     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-03-09 12:07 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/6] mm/migrate: skip data copy for already-copied folios Shivank Garg
2026-03-12  9:44   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-15 18:25     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-03-23 12:20       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-24  8:22   ` Huang, Ying
2026-04-03 11:08     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-07  6:52       ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-09 12:07 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/6] mm/migrate: add batch-copy path in migrate_pages_batch Shivank Garg
2026-03-24  8:42   ` Huang, Ying
2026-04-03 11:09     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-03-09 12:07 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/6] mm/migrate: add copy offload registration infrastructure Shivank Garg
2026-03-09 17:54   ` Gregory Price
2026-03-10 10:07     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-03-24 10:54   ` Huang, Ying
2026-04-03 11:11     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-07  7:40       ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2026-03-09 12:07 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/6] drivers/migrate_offload: add DMA batch copy driver (dcbm) Shivank Garg
2026-03-09 18:04   ` Gregory Price
2026-03-12  9:33     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-03-24  8:10   ` Huang, Ying
2026-04-03 11:06     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-03-09 12:07 ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/6] mm/migrate: adjust NR_MAX_BATCHED_MIGRATION for testing Shivank Garg
2026-03-18 14:29 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/6] Accelerate page migration with batch copying and hardware offload Garg, Shivank

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