From: "Huang\, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>,
Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@de.ibm.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2 1/2] mm, swap: Use kvzalloc to allocate some swap data structure
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 08:49:13 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o9wbhe5y.fsf@yhuang-dev.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170403081522.GE24661@dhcp22.suse.cz> (Michal Hocko's message of "Mon, 3 Apr 2017 10:15:23 +0200")
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> writes:
> On Sat 01-04-17 12:47:56, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Hi, Michal,
>>
>> Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> writes:
>>
>> > On Fri 24-03-17 06:56:10, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> >> On 03/24/2017 12:33 AM, John Hubbard wrote:
>> >> > There might be some additional information you are using to come up with
>> >> > that conclusion, that is not obvious to me. Any thoughts there? These
>> >> > calls use the same underlying page allocator (and I thought that both
>> >> > were subject to the same constraints on defragmentation, as a result of
>> >> > that). So I am not seeing any way that kmalloc could possibly be a
>> >> > less-fragmenting call than vmalloc.
>> >>
>> >> You guys are having quite a discussion over a very small point.
>> >>
>> >> But, Ying is right.
>> >>
>> >> Let's say we have a two-page data structure. vmalloc() takes two
>> >> effectively random order-0 pages, probably from two different 2M pages
>> >> and pins them. That "kills" two 2M pages.
>> >>
>> >> kmalloc(), allocating two *contiguous* pages, is very unlikely to cross
>> >> a 2M boundary (it theoretically could). That means it will only "kill"
>> >> the possibility of a single 2M page. More 2M pages == less fragmentation.
>> >
>> > Yes I agree with this. And the patch is no brainer. kvmalloc makes sure
>> > to not try too hard on the kmalloc side so I really didn't get the
>> > objection about direct compaction and reclaim which initially started
>> > this discussion. Besides that the swapon path usually happens early
>> > during the boot where we should have those larger blocks available.
>>
>> Could I add your Acked-by for this patch?
>
> Yes but please add the reasoning pointed out by Dave. As the patch
> doesn't give any numbers and it would be fairly hard to add some without
> artificial workloads we should at least document our current thinking
> so that we can revisit it later.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Thanks, will add the reasoning.
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-20 8:47 [PATCH -v2 1/2] mm, swap: Use kvzalloc to allocate some swap data structure Huang, Ying
2017-03-20 8:47 ` [PATCH -v2 2/2] mm, swap: Sort swap entries before free Huang, Ying
2017-03-20 21:32 ` [PATCH -v2 1/2] mm, swap: Use kvzalloc to allocate some swap data structure David Rientjes
2017-03-24 2:41 ` Huang, Ying
2017-03-24 4:27 ` John Hubbard
2017-03-24 4:52 ` Huang, Ying
2017-03-24 6:48 ` John Hubbard
2017-03-24 7:16 ` Huang, Ying
2017-03-24 7:33 ` John Hubbard
2017-03-24 13:56 ` Dave Hansen
2017-03-24 16:52 ` Tim Chen
2017-03-24 18:15 ` John Hubbard
2017-03-30 16:31 ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-01 4:47 ` Huang, Ying
2017-04-03 8:15 ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-05 0:49 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2017-04-05 13:43 ` Vlastimil Babka
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