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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
To: Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.de>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Linux FS-devel Mailing List <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM ATTEND] memory allocation scope
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 14:53:15 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87po56q578.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b9d4170-bc71-3338-6b46-22130f828adb@suse.de>

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On Wed, Feb 14 2018, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote:

> Discussion with the memory folks towards scope based allocation
> I am working on converting some of the GFP_NOFS memory allocation calls
> to new scope API [1]. While other allocation types (noio, nofs,
> noreclaim) are covered. Are there plans for identifying scope of
> GFP_ATOMIC allocations? This should cover most (if not all) of the
> allocation scope.
>
> Transient Errors with direct I/O
> In a large enough direct I/O, bios are split. If any of these bios get
> an error, the whole I/O is marked as erroneous. What this means at the
> application level is that part of your direct I/O data may be written
> while part may not be. In the end, you can have an inconsistent write
> with some parts of it written and some not. Currently the applications
> need to overwrite the whole write() again.

So?
If that is a problem for the application, maybe it should use smaller
writes.  If smaller writes cause higher latency, then use aio to submit
them.

I doubt that splitting bios is the only thing that can cause a write
that reported as EIO to have partially completed.  An application should
*always* assume that EIO from a write means that the data on the device
is indistinguishable from garbage - shouldn't it?

NeilBrown


>
> Other things I am interested in:
>  - new mount API
>  - Online Filesystem Check
>  - FS cache shrinking
>
> [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/710545/
>
>
> -- 
> Goldwyn

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-15  3:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-14 22:51 [LSF/MM ATTEND] memory allocation scope Goldwyn Rodrigues
2018-02-15  3:53 ` NeilBrown [this message]
2018-02-15 14:19   ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2018-02-15 14:48 ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-15 15:57   ` [Lsf-pc] " James Bottomley
2018-02-15 16:02     ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-15 16:06       ` Michal Hocko

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