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From: "Huang\, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team <kernel-team@lge.com>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] mm:swap: respect page_cluster for readahead
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 15:29:45 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r2vcnzme.fsf@yhuang-dev.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170912065244.GC2068@bbox> (Minchan Kim's message of "Tue, 12 Sep 2017 15:52:44 +0900")

Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> writes:

> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 02:44:36PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> writes:
>> 
>> > On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 01:23:01PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> >> Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > page_cluster 0 means "we don't want readahead" so in the case,
>> >> > let's skip the readahead detection logic.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
>> >> > Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
>> >> > ---
>> >> >  include/linux/swap.h | 3 ++-
>> >> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> >> >
>> >> > diff --git a/include/linux/swap.h b/include/linux/swap.h
>> >> > index 0f54b491e118..739d94397c47 100644
>> >> > --- a/include/linux/swap.h
>> >> > +++ b/include/linux/swap.h
>> >> > @@ -427,7 +427,8 @@ extern bool has_usable_swap(void);
>> >> >  
>> >> >  static inline bool swap_use_vma_readahead(void)
>> >> >  {
>> >> > -	return READ_ONCE(swap_vma_readahead) && !atomic_read(&nr_rotate_swap);
>> >> > +	return page_cluster > 0 && READ_ONCE(swap_vma_readahead)
>> >> > +				&& !atomic_read(&nr_rotate_swap);
>> >> >  }
>> >> >  
>> >> >  /* Swap 50% full? Release swapcache more aggressively.. */
>> >> 
>> >> Now the readahead window size of the VMA based swap readahead is
>> >> controlled by /sys/kernel/mm/swap/vma_ra_max_order, while that of the
>> >> original swap readahead is controlled by sysctl page_cluster.  It is
>> >> possible for anonymous memory to use VMA based swap readahead and tmpfs
>> >> to use original swap readahead algorithm at the same time.  So that, I
>> >> think it is necessary to use different control knob to control these two
>> >> algorithm.  So if we want to disable readahead for tmpfs, but keep it
>> >> for VMA based readahead, we can set 0 to page_cluster but non-zero to
>> >> /sys/kernel/mm/swap/vma_ra_max_order.  With your change, this will be
>> >> impossible.
>> >
>> > For a long time, page-cluster have been used as controlling swap readahead.
>> > One of example, zram users have been disabled readahead via 0 page-cluster.
>> > However, with your change, it would be regressed if it doesn't disable
>> > vma_ra_max_order.
>> >
>> > As well, all of swap users should be aware of vma_ra_max_order as well as
>> > page-cluster to control swap readahead but I didn't see any document about
>> > that. Acutaully, I don't like it but want to unify it with page-cluster.
>> 
>> The document is in
>> 
>> Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-mm-swap
>> 
>> The concern of unifying it with page-cluster is as following.
>> 
>> Original swap readahead on tmpfs may not work well because the combined
>> workload is running, so we want to disable or constrain it.  But at the
>> same time, the VMA based swap readahead may work better.  So I think it
>> may be necessary to control them separately.
>
> My concern is users have been disabled swap readahead by page-cluster would
> be regressed. Please take care of them.

How about disable VMA based swap readahead if zram used as swap?  Like
we have done for hard disk?

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-12  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-12  2:37 [PATCH 1/5] zram: set BDI_CAP_STABLE_WRITES once Minchan Kim
2017-09-12  2:37 ` [PATCH 2/5] bdi: introduce BDI_CAP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO Minchan Kim
2017-09-12  2:37 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm:swap: introduce SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO Minchan Kim
2017-09-12  4:48   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-12  2:37 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm:swap: respect page_cluster for readahead Minchan Kim
2017-09-12  5:23   ` Huang, Ying
2017-09-12  6:25     ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-12  6:44       ` Huang, Ying
2017-09-12  6:52         ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-12  7:29           ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2017-09-12  7:56             ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-12  8:07               ` Huang, Ying
2017-09-12  8:22                 ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-12  8:32                   ` Huang, Ying
2017-09-12 23:34                     ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-13  0:55                       ` Huang, Ying
2017-09-12  2:37 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm:swap: skip swapcache for swapin of synchronous device Minchan Kim
2017-09-12  6:04   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-12  6:31     ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-12 20:22   ` kbuild test robot
2017-09-13  0:16     ` Minchan Kim

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