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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	 Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 Ying Huang <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com>,
	 Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	 Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,  Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	ying.huang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] memory tiering: Do not allow promotion if NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2026 11:31:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87se9et4w4.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260401172220.fff999a33e3ffcd0d1fa8929@linux-foundation.org> (Andrew Morton's message of "Wed, 1 Apr 2026 17:22:20 -0700")

Hi, Andrew,

Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 04:48:49 -0500 Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> In the current implementation, if NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is
>> disabled and the pages are on the lower tier, the pages may still be
>> promoted.
>> 
>> This happens because task_numa_work() updates the last_cpupid field to
>> record the last access time only when NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is
>> enabled and the folio is on the lower tier. If
>> NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled, the last_cpupid field
>> can retains a valid last CPU id.
>> 
>> In should_numa_migrate_memory(), the decision checks whether
>> NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled, the folio is on the lower
>> tier, and last_cpupid is invalid. However, the last_cpupid can be
>> valid when NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled, the condition
>> evaluates to false and migration is allowed.
>> 
>> This patch prevents promotion when NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is
>> disabled and the folio is on the lower tier.
>> 
>> Behavior before this change:
>> ============================
>>   - If NUMA_BALANCING_NORMAL is enabled, migration occurs between
>>     nodes within the same memory tier, and promotion from lower
>>     tier to higher tier may also happen.
>> 
>>   - If NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is enabled, promotion from
>>     lower tier to higher tier nodes is allowed.
>> 
>> Behavior after this change:
>> ===========================
>>   - If NUMA_BALANCING_NORMAL is enabled, migration will occur only
>>     between nodes within the same memory tier.
>> 
>>   - If NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is enabled, promotion from lower
>>     tier to higher tier nodes will be allowed.
>> 
>>   - If both NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING and NUMA_BALANCING_NORMAL are
>>     enabled, both migration (same tier) and promotion (cross tier) are
>>     allowed.
>
> There was no feedback on this, nor on your v1.
>
>> Fixes: 33024536bafd ("memory tiering: hot page selection with hint page fault latency")
>
> Ying Huang seems to have moved around a bit - let me add a couple more
> email addresses.  Apologies if we have multiple Ying Huangs!

Thanks!  I don't find other Ying Huang in mm community yet.

Now I use the following email address:

"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
Ying Huang <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com>

and stop using the following email address:

ying.huang@intel.com

> Rik, Mel?  It's a bugfix.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> From: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
> Subject: memory tiering: do not allow promotion if NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled
> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 04:48:49 -0500
>
> In the current implementation, if NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is
> disabled and the pages are on the lower tier, the pages may still be
> promoted.
>
> This happens because task_numa_work() updates the last_cpupid field to
> record the last access time only when NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is
> enabled and the folio is on the lower tier.  If
> NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled, the last_cpupid field can
> retains a valid last CPU id.
>
> In should_numa_migrate_memory(), the decision checks whether
> NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled, the folio is on the lower tier,
> and last_cpupid is invalid.  However, the last_cpupid can be valid when
> NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled, the condition evaluates to
> false and migration is allowed.
>
> This patch prevents promotion when NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is
> disabled and the folio is on the lower tier.
>
> Behavior before this change:
> ============================
>   - If NUMA_BALANCING_NORMAL is enabled, migration occurs between
>     nodes within the same memory tier, and promotion from lower
>     tier to higher tier may also happen.
>
>   - If NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is enabled, promotion from
>     lower tier to higher tier nodes is allowed.
>
> Behavior after this change:
> ===========================
>   - If NUMA_BALANCING_NORMAL is enabled, migration will occur only
>     between nodes within the same memory tier.
>
>   - If NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is enabled, promotion from lower
>     tier to higher tier nodes will be allowed.
>
>   - If both NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING and NUMA_BALANCING_NORMAL are
>     enabled, both migration (same tier) and promotion (cross tier) are
>     allowed.
>
> Link: https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20260323094849.3903-1-donettom@linux.ibm.com
> Fixes: 33024536bafd ("memory tiering: hot page selection with hint page fault latency")
> Signed-off-by: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
> Cc: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
> Cc: Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>
> Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>
> Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
> Cc: "Huang, Ying" <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com>
> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
> Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
> Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Cc: "Ritesh Harjani (IBM)" <ritesh.list@gmail.com>
> Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> Cc: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
> Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> ---
>
>  kernel/sched/fair.c |    6 +++++-
>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c~memory-tiering-do-not-allow-promotion-if-numa_balancing_memory_tiering-is-disabled
> +++ a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -2024,8 +2024,12 @@ bool should_numa_migrate_memory(struct t
>  	this_cpupid = cpu_pid_to_cpupid(dst_cpu, current->pid);
>  	last_cpupid = folio_xchg_last_cpupid(folio, this_cpupid);
>  
> +	/*
> +	 * Do not allow promotion if NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled
> +	 * and the pages are on the lower tier.
> +	 */
>  	if (!(sysctl_numa_balancing_mode & NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING) &&
> -	    !node_is_toptier(src_nid) && !cpupid_valid(last_cpupid))
> +	    !node_is_toptier(src_nid))
>  		return false;
>  
>  	/*
> _

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-02  3:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-23  9:48 [PATCH v2] memory tiering: Do not allow promotion if NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING is disabled Donet Tom
2026-04-02  0:22 ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-02  3:31   ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2026-04-02  3:27 ` Huang, Ying
2026-04-02  4:59   ` Donet Tom
2026-04-02  6:24     ` Huang, Ying

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