From: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
To: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>
Cc: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Matt Bobrowski <mattbobrowski@google.com>,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 01/14] mm: introduce bpf struct ops for OOM handling
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 10:00:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wm6rwd4d.fsf@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1f2711b1-d809-4063-804b-7b2a3c8d933e@linux.dev> (Martin KaFai Lau's message of "Fri, 22 Aug 2025 12:27:48 -0700")
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev> writes:
> On 8/20/25 5:24 PM, Roman Gushchin wrote:
>>> How is it decided who gets to run before the other? Is it based on
>>> order of attachment (which can be non-deterministic)?
>> Yeah, now it's the order of attachment.
>>
>>> There was a lot of discussion on something similar for tc progs, and
>>> we went with specific flags that capture partial ordering constraints
>>> (instead of priorities that may collide).
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230719140858.13224-2-daniel@iogearbox.net
>>> It would be nice if we can find a way of making this consistent.
>
> +1
>
> The cgroup bpf prog has recently added the mprog api support also. If
> the simple order of attachment is not enough and needs to have
> specific ordering, we should make the bpf struct_ops support the same
> mprog api instead of asking each subsystem creating its own.
>
> fyi, another need for struct_ops ordering is to upgrade the
> BPF_PROG_TYPE_SOCK_OPS api to struct_ops for easier extension in the
> future. Slide 13 in
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wjKZth6T0llLJ_ONPAL_6Q_jbxbAjByp/view
Does it mean it's better now to keep it simple in the context of oom
patches with the plan to later reuse the generic struct_ops
infrastructure?
Honestly, I believe that the simple order of attachment should be
good enough for quite a while, so I'd not over-complicate this,
unless it's not fixable later.
Thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-25 17:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-18 17:01 [PATCH v1 00/14] mm: BPF OOM Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 01/14] mm: introduce bpf struct ops for OOM handling Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 4:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 20:06 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 19:34 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-20 19:52 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 20:01 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 16:23 ` Amery Hung
2025-08-20 11:28 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-21 0:24 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-21 0:36 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-21 2:22 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-21 15:54 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-22 19:27 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-08-25 17:00 ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2025-08-26 18:01 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-08-26 19:52 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-08-27 18:28 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-02 17:31 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-02 22:30 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-09-02 23:36 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-03 0:29 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-03 23:30 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-04 6:39 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-04 14:32 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-04 16:26 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-04 16:58 ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-26 16:56 ` Amery Hung
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 02/14] bpf: mark struct oom_control's memcg field as TRUSTED_OR_NULL Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 9:17 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:32 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 03/14] mm: introduce bpf_oom_kill_process() bpf kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 04/14] mm: introduce bpf kfuncs to deal with memcg pointers Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 9:21 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:43 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 23:33 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 05/14] mm: introduce bpf_get_root_mem_cgroup() bpf kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 9:25 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:45 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 06/14] mm: introduce bpf_out_of_memory() " Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 4:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 20:16 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 9:34 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:59 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 07/14] mm: allow specifying custom oom constraint for bpf triggers Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 08/14] mm: introduce bpf_task_is_oom_victim() kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 09/14] bpf: selftests: introduce read_cgroup_file() helper Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 10/14] bpf: selftests: bpf OOM handler test Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 9:33 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-08-20 22:49 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 20:23 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-21 0:10 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 11/14] sched: psi: refactor psi_trigger_create() Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 4:09 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 20:28 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 12/14] sched: psi: implement psi trigger handling using bpf Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 4:11 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 22:31 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 23:31 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 23:56 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-26 17:03 ` Amery Hung
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 13/14] sched: psi: implement bpf_psi_create_trigger() kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 20:30 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-21 0:36 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-22 19:13 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-22 19:57 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-08-25 16:56 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-18 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 14/14] bpf: selftests: psi struct ops test Roman Gushchin
2025-08-19 4:08 ` [PATCH v1 00/14] mm: BPF OOM Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-08-19 19:52 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-08-20 21:06 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-21 0:01 ` Roman Gushchin
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=87wm6rwd4d.fsf@linux.dev \
--to=roman.gushchin@linux.dev \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=ast@kernel.org \
--cc=bpf@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=hannes@cmpxchg.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=martin.lau@linux.dev \
--cc=mattbobrowski@google.com \
--cc=memxor@gmail.com \
--cc=mhocko@suse.com \
--cc=rientjes@google.com \
--cc=song@kernel.org \
--cc=surenb@google.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).