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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Cc: "zhangliang (AG)" <zhangliang5@huawei.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	wangzhigang17@huawei.com, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: reuse the unshared swapcache page in do_wp_page
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 19:00:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8931808d-db61-0f06-ceb3-f48a83b1f74c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C8734D0B-B855-4323-A7DF-2D96245951B2@gmail.com>

On 20.01.22 18:48, Nadav Amit wrote:
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:15 AM, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 17.01.22 14:31, zhangliang (AG) wrote:
>>> Sure, I will do that :)
>>
>> I'm polishing up / testing the patches and might send something out for discussion shortly.
>> Just a note that on my branch was a version with a wrong condition that should have been fixed now.
>>
> 
> Sorry for being late for the discussion.
> 
> David, does any of it regards the lru_cache_add() reference issue that I
> mentioned? [1]

No, unfortunately not in that part of my work. *Maybe* we could also try
to handle that reference similarly to the swapcache, but the question is
if we can't wait for PageAnonExclusive.

Right now I have the following in mind to get most parts working as
exptected:

1. Optimize reuse logic for the swapcache as it seems to be easy
2. Streamline COW logic and remove reuse_swap_page() -- fix the CVE for
   THP.
3. Introduce PageAnonExclusive and allow FOLL_PIN only on
   PageAnonExclusive pages.
4. Convert O_DIRECT to FOLL_PIN

We will never ever have to copy a page PageAnonExclusive page in the COW
handler and can immediately reuse it without even locking the page. The
existing reuse logic is essentially then used to reset PageAnonExclusive
on a page (thus it makes sense to work on it) where the flag is not set
anymore -- or on a fresh page if we have to copy.

That implies that all these additional references won't care if your app
doesn't fork() or KSM isn't active. Consequently, anything that
read-protects anonymous pages will work as expected and should be as
fast as it gets.

Sounds good? At least to me. If only swap/migration entries wouldn't be
harder to handle than I'd wish, that's why it's taking a little and will
take a little longer.

> 
> Seems to me that any solution should also regard this problem, or am I
> missing something?

The bigger picture has to handle it, yes!

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-20 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-13 14:03 [PATCH] mm: reuse the unshared swapcache page in do_wp_page Liang Zhang
2022-01-13 14:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-13 14:46   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-13 15:02     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-13 15:04       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-13 16:37   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-13 16:48     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-13 17:14       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-13 17:25         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-13 17:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-13 17:55             ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-13 18:55               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-13 21:07             ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-13 22:21               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-14  5:00       ` zhangliang (AG)
2022-01-14 11:23         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-17  2:11           ` zhangliang (AG)
2022-01-17 12:58             ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-17 13:31               ` zhangliang (AG)
2022-01-20 14:15                 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-20 14:39                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-20 15:26                     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-20 15:36                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-20 15:39                         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-20 15:45                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-20 15:51                             ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-20 16:09                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-20 16:35                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-20 15:37                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-20 15:46                         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-20 17:22                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-20 17:49                             ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-20 17:48                   ` Nadav Amit
2022-01-20 18:00                     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2022-01-20 18:11                       ` Nadav Amit
2022-01-20 18:19                         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-20 19:55                         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-20 20:07                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-20 20:09                             ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-20 20:37                               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-20 20:46                                 ` Nadav Amit
2022-01-20 20:49                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-21  9:01                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-21 17:43                                       ` Nadav Amit
2022-01-20 20:18                           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-14  3:29   ` zhangliang (AG)

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