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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, ljs@kernel.org,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, liam@infradead.org,
	npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	baohua@kernel.org, lance.yang@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	osalvador@suse.de, chrisl@kernel.org, kasong@tencent.com,
	shikemeng@huaweicloud.com, nphamcs@gmail.com,
	baoquan.he@linux.dev, youngjun.park@lge.com, peterx@redhat.com,
	usama.arif@linux.dev, willy@infradead.org, vbabka@kernel.org,
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	hannes@cmpxchg.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] Introducte Reserved THP
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:00:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89837004-b5c9-4b59-b795-3b79005379af@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DJMS84Y4KYDY.26GNQPOZ6G4L7@nvidia.com>

... digging through old mail.

> 
> You mean the reservation should be done via some file handle, like
> memfd, so that it is easy to apply memory policies to determine where
> reserved memory locates?
> 
> For existing hugetlb reservation, there is no fine control, like NUMA,
> or cgroup, of the reserved free memory.
> 
> Is that what you mean above?

I guess, it's all tricky. hugetlb reservation is a mess. We better not make
similar mistakes with THPs.

[...]

>>> 3.6 Remove Hugetlb
>>> ------------------
>>>
>>> Once reserved THP can completely replace the existing functions of hugetlb, we
>>> can gradually remove Hugetlb, leaving only one huge page management system in
>>> the kernel.
>>
>> I'm sorry, but no way this will work in any reasonable timeframe unless you
>> mimic the exact user facing ABI -- and I don't think we'll gain a lot that way.
>>
>> I know, we all like to dream, but this just isn't feasible.
> 
> Based on my understanding, the key takeway is that we want to have more
> control over reserved memory, where to get the free memory, who gets how
> much of the reserved memory, and more.

yes, it's all very complicated. Slapping on some MADV_RESERVED_THP is just
entirely the wrong way to tackle this.

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-13 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-27  7:21 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Introducte Reserved THP Qi Zheng
2026-06-27  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] mm: page_alloc: add reserved THP pageblock type Qi Zheng
2026-06-27  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] mm: add boot-time reserved THP pageblock capacity Qi Zheng
2026-06-27  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] mm: page_alloc: add a reserved THP allocation primitive Qi Zheng
2026-06-27  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] mm: add reserved THP quota helpers Qi Zheng
2026-06-27  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] mm: add reserved THP vma flag Qi Zheng
2026-06-27  7:26 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] mm: maintain reserved THP quota across VMA changes Qi Zheng
2026-06-27  7:26 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] mm: support reserved THP VMAs in anonymous faults Qi Zheng
2026-06-27  7:26 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] mm: add MADV_RESERVED_THP range policy Qi Zheng
2026-06-29  3:46 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Introducte Reserved THP Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-29 10:13   ` Qi Zheng
2026-06-29 12:20 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 19:00   ` Gregory Price
2026-06-30 22:59   ` Barry Song
2026-06-30 23:34     ` Zi Yan
2026-07-01  0:24       ` Barry Song
2026-06-30 23:45   ` Zi Yan
2026-08-13 10:00     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-08-13 10:45       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)

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