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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: John Stoffel <john@quad.stoffel.home>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, clm@fb.com, jack@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] More graceful flusher thread memory reclaim wakeup
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:32:25 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8a91a54e-e224-ad79-faac-3f8fe654246a@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170920192909.GA27517@quad.stoffel.home>

On 09/20/2017 01:29 PM, John Stoffel wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 01:53:01PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> We've had some issues with writeback in presence of memory reclaim
>> at Facebook, and this patch set attempts to fix it up. The real
>> functional change is the last patch in the series, the first 5 are
>> prep and cleanup patches.
>>
>> The basic idea is that we have callers that call
>> wakeup_flusher_threads() with nr_pages == 0. This means 'writeback
>> everything'. For memory reclaim situations, we can end up queuing
>> a TON of these kinds of writeback units. This can cause softlockups
>> and further memory issues, since we allocate huge amounts of
>> struct wb_writeback_work to handle this writeback. Handle this
>> situation more gracefully.
> 
> This looks nice, but do you have any numbers to show how this improves
> things?  I read the patches, but I'm not strong enough to comment on
> them at all.  But I am interested in how this improves writeback under
> pressure, if at all.

Writeback should be about the same, it's mostly about preventing
softlockups and excessive memory usage, under conditions where we are
actively trying to reclaim/clean memory. It was bad enough to cause
softlockups for writeback work processing, while the pending writeback
work units grew to insane lengths.

-- 
Jens Axboe

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-20 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-19 19:53 [PATCH 0/6] More graceful flusher thread memory reclaim wakeup Jens Axboe
2017-09-19 19:53 ` [PATCH 1/6] buffer: cleanup free_more_memory() flusher wakeup Jens Axboe
2017-09-19 20:05   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-09-20 14:17   ` Jan Kara
2017-09-20 15:18     ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-19 19:53 ` [PATCH 2/6] fs-writeback: provide a wakeup_flusher_threads_bdi() Jens Axboe
2017-09-19 20:05   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-09-20 14:19   ` Jan Kara
2017-09-19 19:53 ` [PATCH 3/6] page-writeback: pass in '0' for nr_pages writeback in laptop mode Jens Axboe
2017-09-19 20:06   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-09-20 14:35   ` Jan Kara
2017-09-20 15:19     ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-19 19:53 ` [PATCH 4/6] fs-writeback: make wb_start_writeback() static Jens Axboe
2017-09-19 20:07   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-09-20 14:35   ` Jan Kara
2017-09-19 19:53 ` [PATCH 5/6] fs-writeback: move nr_pages == 0 logic to one location Jens Axboe
2017-09-19 20:07   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-09-20 14:41   ` Jan Kara
2017-09-20 15:05     ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-20 15:36       ` Jan Kara
2017-09-20 15:40         ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-19 19:53 ` [PATCH 6/6] fs-writeback: only allow one inflight and pending !nr_pages flush Jens Axboe
2017-09-19 20:18   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-09-19 20:39     ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-20  1:57   ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-20  3:10   ` Amir Goldstein
2017-09-20  4:13     ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-20  6:05       ` Amir Goldstein
2017-09-20 12:35         ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-20 14:43       ` Jan Kara
2017-09-20 19:29 ` [PATCH 0/6] More graceful flusher thread memory reclaim wakeup John Stoffel
2017-09-20 19:32   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2017-09-20 23:11     ` Johannes Weiner

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