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From: Rik van Riel To: Chris Li , Gregory Price Cc: Johannes Weiner , Baoquan He , Nhat Pham , Kairui Song , Michal Hocko , Roman Gushchin , Shakeel Butt , Yosry Ahmed , David Hildenbrand , Muchun Song , Kemeng Shi , Barry Song , YoungJun Park , Chengming Zhou , "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" , "Liam R. 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That does not make sense. There are millions of users for who the system should just work, without having to first answer your questions. Their use case is legitimate. --=20 All Rights Reversed.