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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	mjguzik@gmail.com, pfalcato@suse.de, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, jack@suse.cz, jlayton@kernel.org,
	chuck.lever@oracle.com, alex.aring@gmail.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	keescook@chromium.org, mcgrof@kernel.org, j.granados@samsung.com,
	allen.lkml@gmail.com
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Xin Zhao <jackzxcui1989@163.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] coredump: Add /proc/<pid>/coredump_pre_exit for pre-exit before dumping
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 12:57:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9105c433-44a7-4e8f-bacb-def93d11a7f2@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260625-wappnen-drohbrief-wermutstropfen-c53538f01547@brauner>

>> +
>>  #define F_DUPFD		0	/* dup */
>>  #define F_GETFD		1	/* get close_on_exec */
>>  #define F_SETFD		2	/* set/clear close_on_exec */
>> diff --git a/kernel/fork.c b/kernel/fork.c
>> index a679b2448234..84f1ee7f32cf 100644
>> --- a/kernel/fork.c
>> +++ b/kernel/fork.c
>> @@ -1030,6 +1030,18 @@ static int __init coredump_filter_setup(char *s)
>>  
>>  __setup("coredump_filter=", coredump_filter_setup);
>>  
>> +static unsigned long default_dump_pre_exit;
>> +
>> +static int __init coredump_pre_exit_setup(char *s)
>> +{
>> +	default_dump_pre_exit =
>> +		(simple_strtoul(s, NULL, 0) << MMF_DUMP_PRE_EXIT_SHIFT) &
>> +		MMF_DUMP_PRE_EXIT_MASK;
>> +	return 1;
>> +}
>> +
>> +__setup("coredump_pre_exit=", coredump_pre_exit_setup);
> 
> This makes no sense. I think you really need to sit down and think about
> a design for this that doesn't introduce state machinery for boot, mm,
> and the VFS in one shot to solve a fringe problem...

Staring at exit_mmap_mapped_shared(), ... this looks rather hacky ("let's fake
munmap and set some magical flags").

We're essentially saying "we don't want (pretty much) anything that's MAP_SHARED
in the coredump". And for some reason someone should configure that, that's a
rather weird toggle tbh.

And the granularity ("file-backed shared memory") is completely odd.


Aren't there other ways we could optimize this internally?

Like, if we know that a process is dead and cannot run anymore, downgrade writes
to reads (and make sure we block GUP write attempts accordingly), or would that
also not be sufficient?


Another thought:

fs/coredump.c calls get_dump_page().

get_dump_page() will not fault in any memory. So if a page is not in the page
tables at the time of the dump, it will not get included in the coredump. Which
means, that whether most non-anonymous memory will be included in a coredump is
already like playing the lottery.

This is true for MAP_SHARED file mappings and MAP_PRIVATE file mappings without
private modifications.

Which makes me wonder: How much is tooling relying on file-backed pages to end
up in a coredump?

-- 
Cheers,

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-25 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260624145552.70143-1-jackzxcui1989@163.com>
2026-06-25  7:28 ` [PATCH v4] coredump: Add /proc/<pid>/coredump_pre_exit for pre-exit before dumping Christian Brauner
2026-06-25  8:50   ` Xin Zhao
2026-06-25 16:55     ` Al Viro
2026-06-25 10:57   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-06-25 11:18     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-25 11:43       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-25 12:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-25 15:45   ` Xin Zhao

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