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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Server: rspam05 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 864F216000A X-Stat-Signature: wj1gmzsno1m1sunfpkuo3wwgtgmrxr5m X-Rspam-User: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.6 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-HE-Tag: 1792485422-16158 X-HE-Meta: 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 XcdauUFu SCV3mTd//phsOfNhsaRYHlQSSltdcVboJNtXa3MzPlZZzfDmZzpPX4xgaIb05EzIuMotqpwyYAkY5xJWzV+BOqjKCt/k9l/u4zrxFzilERmgc4nlVjAy+2aJ89+udE6e9PvXOqYYYi0Z1GD+kOsCkvqWJzkaC48XmAMjopAthlQzHtmatfyEdxqr6j/MEiXAMJY3RUEekDN3zLfU2urbSV+VN3621tzHVZE53ngJQB6egst5I/FKvwJ232NF5vq8UC0wSylIniC/YsRt58wcLSDpISLp12PyX5ovj Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on aws-us-west-2-korg-listserv-alma10-1 On 10/16/26 03:47, Baolin Wang wrote: > > > On 10/16/26 3:00 AM, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote: >> On 10/15/26 08:41, Baolin Wang wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, I've considered that. However, implicit memory barriers give me a headache, >>> so I ended up going with explicit memory barriers (suggested by Pedro). >>> >>> If you don't like memory barriers, let me re-check whether the implicit memory >>> barriers here can ensure race safety with sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(). A >>> simplified logic is as follows: >>> >>> CPU 0 (truncation)                        CPU 1 (zapping) >>> down_read() ->Acquire A1.                pte spin_lock() ->Acquire A4 >>>                                           clear mapcount >>> >>>                                           pmd spin_lock() ->Acquire A5 >>>                                           clear pmd >>>                                           pmd spin_unlock() ->Release R5 >>> >>> if (pmd_none()) { //read pmd >>>                                           pte spin_unlock() ->Release R4 >>>      pmd spin_lock() ->Acquire A2 >>>      pmd spin_unlock() ->Release R2 >>> } >>> up_read() -> Release R1 >>> >>> spin_lock(y) ->Acquire A3 >>> folio_mapped() // read mapcount >>> spin_unlock(y) ->Release R3 >>> >>> CPU 0 constraints: >>> 1. R2 is a release, so "read pmd" completes before R2. >>> 2. A2 completes before A3 (ACQUIRE vs ACQUIRE). >>> 3. "read mapcount" completes after A3, hence after A2. >>> >>> CPU 1 constraints: >>> 1. R5 is a release. Both "clear mapcount" and "clear pmd" complete before R5. >>> >>> According to above constraints, if CPU0 sees pmd_none() caused by CPU1's clear >>> pmd, and CPU0 then acquires the same pmd lock released by CPU1 at R5, then >>> CPU1's clear mapcount happens before CPU0's later folio_mapped(). >>> >>> Therefore folio_mapped() is guaranteed not to read the old mapcount in this >>> case. So I think sync_with_folio_pmd_zap() can work, but needs a small change to >>> avoid the double pmd_none() check. >> >> >> I'd be okay with some (follow-up?) memory barrier handling inside >> sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(), for example, based on the folio size and with proper >> documentation why we need the PT lock in one case and why the memory barrier is >> ok in the other case. > > I'm afraid that we can't fit all the memory barriers into > sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(). As the current patch does, we need memory barriers on > both the writer and reader sides. Obviously only the reader-side one would go in there. [...] >>>                  if (pmd_none(*pmd)) { >>> +                       if (details && details->single_folio) >>> +                               sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(tlb->mm, pmd); >>>                          addr = next; >>>                          continue; >>>                  } >> >> We do have another sync_with_folio_pmd_zap() user in page_vma_mapped_walk(), >> does that one need care as well? > > Good point. But I don't want to add page_vma_mapped_walk() changes into this fix > patch. I need to analyze all callers of page_vma_mapped_walk() and the potential > races. I'll look into whether it should be changed in a follow-up patch. Yes, please have a look. I am 99.9% sure that we face the exact same issue there as well. -- Cheers, David