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From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com, wedsonaf@gmail.com,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, gary@garyguo.net, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 22/26] rust: alloc: implement `Cmalloc` in module allocator_test
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:18:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9561eb0e-796c-4a39-b49a-00013052fe4b@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZuGrQcLwXi-tiK8l@cassiopeiae>

On 11.09.24 16:37, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 01:32:31PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
>> On 11.09.24 14:31, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 12:25:27AM +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 07:14:18PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
>>>>> On 16.08.24 02:11, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +        if layout.size() == 0 {
>>>>>> +            // SAFETY: `src` has been created by `Self::alloc_store_data`.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not true, consider:
>>>>>
>>>>>     let ptr = alloc(size = 0);
>>>>>     free(ptr)
>>>>>
>>>>> Alloc will return a dangling pointer due to the first if statement and
>>>>> then this function will pass it to `free_read_data`, even though it
>>>>> wasn't created by `alloc_store_data`.
>>>>> This isn't forbidden by the `Allocator` trait function's safety
>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>>> +            unsafe { Self::free_read_data(src) };
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +            return Ok(NonNull::slice_from_raw_parts(NonNull::dangling(), 0));
>>>>>> +        }
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +        let dst = Self::alloc(layout, flags)?;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +        // SAFETY: `src` has been created by `Self::alloc_store_data`.
>>>>>> +        let data = unsafe { Self::data(src) };
>>>>>
>>>>> Same issue here, if the allocation passed in is zero size. I think you
>>>>> have no other choice than to allocate even for zero size requests...
>>>>> Otherwise how would you know that they are zero-sized.
>>>>
>>>> Good catch - gonna fix it.
>>>
>>> Almost got me. :) I think the code is fine, callers are not allowed to pass
>>> pointers to `realloc` and `free`, which haven't been allocated with the same
>>> corresponding allocator or are dangling.
>>
>> But what about the example above (ie the `alloc(size = 0)` and then
>> `free`)?
> 
> This never has been valid for the `Allocator` trait. Look at `Kmalloc`,
> `Vmalloc` and `KVmalloc`, they don't allow this either.

That is true.

> We've discussed this already in previous versions of this series, where for this
> purpose, you asked for `old_layout` for `free`. Such that `free` can check if
> the `size` was zero and therefore return without doing anything.

Yes, but that was only about the old_layout parameter (at least that's
what I thought).

>> I guess this all depends on how one interprets the term
>> "existing, valid memory allocation". To me that describes anything an
>> `Allocator` returns via `alloc` and `realloc`, including zero-sized
>> allocations.
> 
> I argue that the dangling pointer returned for `size == 0` does not point to any
> allocation in the sense of those allocators. It's just a dangling `[u8]`
> pointer.

Sure, but to me the concept of zero-sized allocations does exist.

>> But if you argue that those are not valid allocations from that
>> allocator, then that is not properly documented in the safety
>> requirements of `Allocator`.
> 
> The safety requirements of `Allocator` where proposed by you and I thought they
> consider this aspect?

No, they did not consider this aspect. I was under the impression, that
we would still allow zero-sized allocations (in retrospect, this is
stupid, since dangling pointers shouldn't be passed to `krealloc` etc.).

> `realloc` has:
> 
> "If `ptr == Some(p)`, then `p` must point to an existing and valid memory
> allocation created by this allocator."
> 
> `free` has:
> 
> "`ptr` must point to an existing and valid memory allocation created by this
> `Allocator` and must not be a dangling pointer."
> 
> We can add the part about the dangling pointer to `realloc` if you want.

So I think we should do the following: 
(1) Add a paragraph to the `Allocator` trait that explains that
    zero-sized allocations are not supported.
(2) Add a check to `realloc` for zero-sized allocations + null pointer
    (ie a new allocation request) that prints a warning and returns an
    error
(3) Instead of writing "existing and valid memory allocation created by
    this allocator", I think "valid non-zero-sized memory allocation
    created by this allocator" fits better.

---
Cheers,
Benno



  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-12  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-16  0:10 [PATCH v6 00/26] Generic `Allocator` support for Rust Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 01/26] rust: alloc: add `Allocator` trait Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-29 18:19   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-29 21:56     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-30 13:06       ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-03 11:56         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-10 13:03           ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-10 13:23             ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-10 19:37               ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-30 13:44   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-31 12:01   ` Gary Guo
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 02/26] rust: alloc: separate `aligned_size` from `krealloc_aligned` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-31 12:16   ` Gary Guo
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 03/26] rust: alloc: rename `KernelAllocator` to `Kmalloc` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 04/26] rust: alloc: implement `Allocator` for `Kmalloc` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-29 18:32   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-29 22:04     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-30 14:45       ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-03 11:48         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-10 13:11           ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-10 13:37             ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-10 19:42               ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 05/26] rust: alloc: add module `allocator_test` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-31 12:18   ` Gary Guo
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 06/26] rust: alloc: implement `Vmalloc` allocator Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-31  5:21   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 07/26] rust: alloc: implement `KVmalloc` allocator Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 08/26] rust: alloc: add __GFP_NOWARN to `Flags` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 09/26] rust: alloc: implement kernel `Box` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-20  9:47   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-20 15:26     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-27 19:21       ` Boqun Feng
2024-08-31  5:39   ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-10 17:40     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-10 19:49       ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-10 23:25         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-11  8:36           ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-11 11:02             ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-11 13:26               ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-11 13:27                 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-11 14:50                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-12  8:03                     ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 10/26] rust: treewide: switch to our kernel `Box` type Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-29 18:35   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 11/26] rust: alloc: remove `BoxExt` extension Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-29 18:38   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 12/26] rust: alloc: add `Box` to prelude Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 13/26] rust: alloc: implement kernel `Vec` type Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-03 19:08   ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-10 18:26     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-10 19:33       ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-10 19:32   ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-11  0:18     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-11  8:46       ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-10 20:07   ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-11 21:59     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-23  9:24       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 14/26] rust: alloc: implement `IntoIterator` for `Vec` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-04 10:29   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-10 20:04   ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-10 23:39     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-11  8:52       ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-11 11:32         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 15/26] rust: alloc: implement `collect` for `IntoIter` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-10 20:12   ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-11  0:22     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-11  8:53       ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-11 11:33         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 16/26] rust: treewide: switch to the kernel `Vec` type Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-29 18:41   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-16  0:10 ` [PATCH v6 17/26] rust: alloc: remove `VecExt` extension Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-16  0:11 ` [PATCH v6 18/26] rust: alloc: add `Vec` to prelude Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-16  0:11 ` [PATCH v6 19/26] rust: error: use `core::alloc::LayoutError` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-16  0:11 ` [PATCH v6 20/26] rust: error: check for config `test` in `Error::name` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-29 18:41   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-16  0:11 ` [PATCH v6 21/26] rust: alloc: implement `contains` for `Flags` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-29 18:42   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-16  0:11 ` [PATCH v6 22/26] rust: alloc: implement `Cmalloc` in module allocator_test Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-29 19:14   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-29 22:25     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-30 12:56       ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-11 12:31       ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-11 13:32         ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-11 14:37           ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-12  8:18             ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2024-08-16  0:11 ` [PATCH v6 23/26] rust: str: test: replace `alloc::format` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-29 18:43   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-16  0:11 ` [PATCH v6 24/26] rust: alloc: update module comment of alloc.rs Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-16  0:11 ` [PATCH v6 25/26] kbuild: rust: remove the `alloc` crate and `GlobalAlloc` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-21 21:34   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-16  0:11 ` [PATCH v6 26/26] MAINTAINERS: add entry for the Rust `alloc` module Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-31 12:57   ` Gary Guo
2024-09-03 12:03     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-04 10:15       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-04 12:51         ` Benno Lossin
     [not found]           ` <CANiq72=MD8jmWb9EGA8yW6eMT6Prj8fYEiJM81-HTq3p4dKmGg@mail.gmail.com>
2024-09-10 13:26             ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-10 13:42               ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-09-10 14:27                 ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-27 19:17 ` [PATCH v6 00/26] Generic `Allocator` support for Rust Boqun Feng

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