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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6.17 0/3] mm/mremap: allow multi-VMA move for huge folio, find ineligible earlier
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 14:19:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <976cacfe-06e9-43b6-a4ed-24be76642f4b@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1754218667.git.lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>

On Sun, Aug 03, 2025 at 12:11:20PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> The multi-VMA move functionality introduced in commit d23cb648e365
> ("mm/mremap: permit mremap() move of multiple VMA") doesn't allow moves of
> file-backed mappings which specify a custom f_op->get_unmapped_area handler
> excepting hugetlb and shmem.
>
> We expand this to include thp_get_unmapped_area to support file-backed
> mappings for filesystems which use large folios.
>
> Additionally, when the first VMA in a range is not compatible with a
> multi-VMA move, instead of moving the first VMA and returning an error,
> this series results in us not moving anything and returning an error
> immediately.
>
> Examining this second change in detail:
>
> The semantics of multi-VMA moves in mremap() very clearly indicate that a
> failure can result in a partial move of VMAs.
>
> This is in line with other aggregate operations within the kernel, which
> share these semantics.
>
> There are two classes of failures we're concerned with - eligiblity for
> mutli-VMA move, and transient failures that would occur even if the user
> individually moved each VMA.
>
> The latter are either a product of the user using mremap() incorrectly or a
> failure due to out-of-memory conditions (which, given the allocations
> involved are small, would likely be fatal in any case), or hitting the
> mapping limit.

Correction here, it's very confusing to refer to user error as a
'transient' failure (it's not), so replace this sentence with:

The latter is due to out-of-memory conditions (which, given the allocations
involved are small, would likely be fatal in any case), or hitting the
mapping limit.

>
> Regardless of the cause, transient issues would be fatal anyway, so it
> isn't really material which VMAs succeeded at being moved or not.
>
> However with when it comes to multi-VMA move eligiblity, we face another
> issue - we must allow a single VMA to succeed regardless of this eligiblity
> (as, of course, it is not a multi-VMA move) - but we must then fail
> multi-VMA operations.
>
> The two means by which VMAs may fail the eligbility test are - the VMAs
> being UFFD-armed, or the VMA being file-backed and providing its own
> f_op->get_unmapped_area() helper (because this may result in MREMAP_FIXED
> being disregarded), excepting those known to correctly handle MREMAP_FIXED.
>
> It is therefore conceivable that a user could erroneously try to use this
> functionality in these instances, and would prefer to not perform any move
> at all should that occur.
>
> This series therefore avoids any move of subsequent VMAs should the first
> be multi-VMA move ineligble and the input span exceeds that of the first
> VMA.
>
> We also add detailed test logic to assert that multi VMA move with
> ineligible VMAs functions as expected.
>
>
> Andrew - I think this should go in as a hot-fix for 6.17, as it would be
> better to change the semantics here before the functionality appears in a
> released kernel.
>
> Lorenzo Stoakes (3):
>   mm/mremap: allow multi-VMA move when filesystem uses
>     thp_get_unmapped_area
>   mm/mremap: catch invalid multi VMA moves earlier
>   selftests/mm: add test for invalid multi VMA operations
>
>  mm/mremap.c                              |  40 ++--
>  tools/testing/selftests/mm/mremap_test.c | 264 ++++++++++++++++++++++-
>  2 files changed, 284 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
>
> --
> 2.50.1

Cheers, Lorenzo


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-08 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-03 11:11 [PATCH 6.17 0/3] mm/mremap: allow multi-VMA move for huge folio, find ineligible earlier Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-03 11:11 ` [PATCH 6.17 1/3] mm/mremap: allow multi-VMA move when filesystem uses thp_get_unmapped_area Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-08 13:38   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-03 11:11 ` [PATCH 6.17 2/3] mm/mremap: catch invalid multi VMA moves earlier Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-08 14:19   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-08 14:34     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-08 14:46       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-08 14:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-08 17:17   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-16  7:52   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-03 11:11 ` [PATCH 6.17 3/3] selftests/mm: add test for invalid multi VMA operations Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-08 13:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-08-12  4:01 ` [PATCH 6.17 0/3] mm/mremap: allow multi-VMA move for huge folio, find ineligible earlier Andrew Morton
2025-08-12  5:32   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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