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From: JP Kobryn <jp.kobryn@linux.dev>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
	mhocko@suse.com, jackmanb@google.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, usama.arif@linux.dev, kirill@shutemov.name,
	willy@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: skip high atomic reservation at or below costly order
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 19:33:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <97c2501d-6d11-4a73-adab-dd06b7de54a3@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <agzH5BCkTMaK19Tx@cmpxchg.org>

On 5/19/26 1:28 PM, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 06:25:32PM -0700, JP Kobryn (Meta) wrote:
>> We're seeing a pattern in production where 2MB THP order-9 
>> allocations are
>> failing due to fragmentation and triggering reclaim on systems with 
>> plenty
>> of free memory. Over time, the success rate of these THP allocations 
>> do not
>> increase at all.
>>
>> Inspecting zone->vm_stat[NR_FREE_PAGES] via kprobe on 
>> compaction_suitable()
>> indicated the given zone had sufficient free pages for order-9 
>> allocations,
>> yet they were going unused. Drilling down into the zone and inspecting
>> /proc/pagetypeinfo revealed why. Order-9 blocks were accumulating in the
>> zone's HighAtomic bucket (while zero were present in Movable). THP is
>> unable to draw blocks from HighAtomic since that bucket is not in the
>> fallback list.
>>
>> The heuristic for reserving pageblocks in HighAtomic is that any atomic
>> allocation greater than order-0 will result in the full pageblock being
>> captured. This means that an order-1 atomic allocation will 
>> over-reserve by
>> 256x, a full 512 pageblock.
>>
>> Gate the reservation on order. Skip for allocations at or below
>> PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER. This prevents smaller atomic allocations from
>> reserving entire pageblocks, and significantly helps when THP is in 
>> use on
>> a fragmented but otherwise healthy system.
>>
>> Testing was performed using an A/B instagram workload receiving prod
>> traffic. Each side had ~60 hosts with 64G memory. The patch resulted in
>> several gains:
>>
>> Unpatched
>> HighAtomic pageblocks per host: 309-312 (1% of zone or 620MB),
>> ...all order-9 blocks in HighAtomic
>> THP success rate: 1-6%
>> Compaction success rate: 0-2%
>> pgscan_kswapd (total across ~60 hosts, per minute): ~70.2M
>> Atomic order-4+ allocations: 0
>>
>> Patched
>> HighAtomic pageblocks per host: 1
>> THP success rate: 44-78%
>> Compaction success rate: 24-47%
>> pgscan_kswapd (total across ~60 hosts, per minute): ~29.9M
>> Atomic order-4+ allocations: 0
> This is an interesting patch. A couple of thoughts:
>
> 1. You disabled the highatomic reserve for this workload and it didn't
> seem to matter. Presumably <costly orders don't need the protection.
Right. Although one detail I realize is I should also consider
pageblock_order as well to avoid any config issue.

> 2. Maxing out the reserves is odd. ALLOC_HIGHATOMIC allocations will
> try reserved space first, and I'd expect things that are commonly
> highatomic to be short-lived. Why don't we stop with a couple of
> claimed highatomic blocks that get continuously recycled?

Even though they may be short-lived, the data shows the volume of
allocations is steady enough to keep the reserves maxed out.

> 3. The impact on THP and compaction success rate is pretty
> extreme. How can 1% of memory throw such a wrench into the gears?
Looking at the pre-patched high atomic pageblock counts, that's ~300
pageblocks that could've been used for THPs. They become usable after
the patch.

> Have you tried this with other workloads?
No, but the pre-patch symptoms will show up on workloads where net
allocs are frequent enough to keep the high atomic pageblock count up.
Memory size of hosts involved is a factor as well since it's possible for a
majority of order-9 pages to be stuck in high atomic.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-27  2:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-19  1:25 [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: skip high atomic reservation at or below costly order JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-05-19 19:27 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-19 23:25   ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-05-19 20:28 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-05-25  9:11   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-05-27  5:57     ` JP Kobryn
2026-05-28 13:57       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-16 19:58         ` JP Kobryn
2026-05-27  2:33   ` JP Kobryn [this message]
2026-05-28 17:09 ` Frank van der Linden
2026-06-16 20:00   ` JP Kobryn

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