From: Giorgi Tchankvetadze <giorgitchankvetadze1997@gmail.com>
To: torvalds@linux-foundation.org
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/10] uaccess: Add speculation barrier to copy_from_user_iter()
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 18:11:58 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98191ca5-9581-44fd-b9b1-6f0b932f141e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whKeVCEtR2mQJQjT2ndSOXGDdb+L0=WoVUQUGumm88VpA@mail.gmail.com>
so we can use speculation barrier? and fix the problem locally
On 8/22/2025 5:52 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 at 05:58, Christophe Leroy
> <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu> wrote:
>> > The results of "access_ok()" can be mis-speculated. The result is
> that > you can end speculatively: > > if (access_ok(from, size)) > //
> Right here
> I actually think that we should probably just make access_ok() itself do this.
>
> We don't have *that* many users since we have been de-emphasizing the
> "check ahead of time" model, and any that are performance-critical can
> these days be turned into masked addresses.
>
> As it is, now we're in the situation that careful places - like
> _inline_copy_from_user(), and with your patch copy_from_user_iter() -
> do maybe wethis by hand and are ugly as a result, and lazy and
> probably incorrect places don't do it at all.
>
> That said, I don't object to this patch and maybe we should do that
> access_ok() change later and independently of any powerpc work.
>
> Linus
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-22 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-22 9:57 [PATCH v2 00/10] powerpc: Implement masked user access Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:57 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] iter: Avoid barrier_nospec() in copy_from_user_iter() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:57 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] uaccess: Add speculation barrier to copy_from_user_iter() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 13:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-08-22 14:11 ` Giorgi Tchankvetadze [this message]
2025-08-22 18:53 ` David Laight
2025-08-22 9:57 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] uaccess: Add masked_user_{read/write}_access_begin Christophe Leroy
2025-08-24 15:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] powerpc/uaccess: Move barrier_nospec() out of allow_read_{from/write}_user() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] powerpc/uaccess: Remove unused size and from parameters from allow_access_user() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] powerpc/uaccess: Remove {allow/prevent}_{read/write/read_write}_{from/to/}_user() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] powerpc/uaccess: Refactor user_{read/write/}_access_begin() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] powerpc/32s: Fix segments setup when TASK_SIZE is not a multiple of 256M Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] powerpc/32: Automatically adapt TASK_SIZE based on constraints Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 12:04 ` David Laight
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] powerpc/uaccess: Implement masked user access Christophe Leroy
2025-08-25 9:04 ` Gabriel Paubert
2025-08-25 9:40 ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-25 10:18 ` Gabriel Paubert
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