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From: "zhen.ni" <zhen.ni@easystack.cn>
To: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
	mhocko@suse.com, jackmanb@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	ziy@nvidia.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] mm/page_owner: add NUMA node filter with nodelist support
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2026 14:00:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <984f08b3-e29a-46b4-97c7-a31a7fdb34f4@easystack.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260430051629.78237-1-sj@kernel.org>



在 2026/4/30 13:16, SeongJae Park 写道:
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 11:56:33 +0800 "zhen.ni" <zhen.ni@easystack.cn> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> 在 2026/4/29 22:56, SeongJae Park 写道:
>>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 17:03:56 +0800 "zhen.ni" <zhen.ni@easystack.cn> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 在 2026/4/29 09:28, SeongJae Park 写道:
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 15:11:11 +0800 Zhen Ni <zhen.ni@easystack.cn> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>>> @@ -685,6 +685,7 @@ read_page_owner(struct file *file, char __user *buf, size_t count, loff_t *ppos)
>>>>>>     	struct page_ext *page_ext;
>>>>>>     	struct page_owner *page_owner;
>>>>>>     	depot_stack_handle_t handle;
>>>>>> +	nodemask_t mask;
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>     	if (!static_branch_unlikely(&page_owner_inited))
>>>>>>     		return -EINVAL;
>>>>>> @@ -698,6 +699,8 @@ read_page_owner(struct file *file, char __user *buf, size_t count, loff_t *ppos)
>>>>>>     	while (!pfn_valid(pfn) && (pfn & (MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES - 1)) != 0)
>>>>>>     		pfn++;
>>>>>>     
>>>>>> +	mask = owner_filter.nid_mask;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>
>>>>> READ_ONCE() was used for owner_filter.print_mode.  Should nid_mask also read
>>>>> using READ_ONCE()?
>>>>>
>>>> The reason is that `owner_filter.nid_mask` is a nodemask_t, which is a
>>>> 128-byte structure. READ_ONCE() only supports types up to 8 bytes and
>>>> will trigger a compile-time assertion failure for larger structures.
>>>>
>>>> This was actually an issue in v2 - the AI review tool (sashiko.dev) and
>>>> Andrew both caught the compilation error with READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE on
>>>> nodemask_t, so v3 removed them.
>>>
>>> Thank you for kindly sharing the context.  Now I understand why READ_ONCE()
>>> cannot be used.  But, is plain load/store safe enough for nodemask_t?
>>> Shouldn't it still be protected against races?
>>>
>> Concurrency Safety:
>> I considered spinlock and RCU, but decided against them:
>>
>> - Spinlock: Adds overhead on every read, overkill for a debug facility
>> - RCU: Requires dynamic allocation of 128-byte nodemask_t, too complex
>> - READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE: Not possible, exceeds 8-byte limit
>>
>> Plain load/store is safe here because:
>> 1. page_owner is debug code with low-frequency filter changes
>> 2. Worst case of torn read is temporary inconsistency in debug output
>> 3. Similar debugfs interfaces use the same approach
>>
>> The overhead of locking doesn't justify the benefit for this debug use case.
>>
>> Do you think this is acceptable, or would you prefer I add locking?
> 
> Thank you for kindly explaining this.  Unless others have different opinions, I
> think this is ok.  But, I think this would be good to be clarly documented, on
> the code or the user documentation.
> 

I'll add a comment in the code explaining the concurrency consideration
> [...]
>>>>>> +	/* Support: "-1" to clear, or nodelist format like "0", "0,2", "0-3" */
>>>>>> +	if (kstrtoint(kbuf, 10, &val) == 0 && val == -1)
>>>>>> +		nodes_clear(mask);
>>>>>> +	else if (nodelist_parse(kbuf, mask)) {
>>>>>> +		ret = -EINVAL;
>>>>>> +		goto out_free;
>>>>>> +	}
>>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't empty string input to nodelist_parse() clears the mask?  Can't it be
>>>>> reused?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, empty input (echo > nid) works because nodelist_parse() handles it
>>>> correctly. However, nodelist_parse() - which is implemented via
>>>> bitmap_parselist() - cannot handle "-1" as it's not a valid range format
>>>> and would return an error. The explicit "-1" check is necessary to
>>>> support `echo "-1" > nid` without returning an error.
>>>>
>>>> So the "-1" check handles a case that nodelist_parse() cannot handle.
>>>
>>> Thank you for kindly explaining the reason.  But, do we really need to support
>>> "-1" input?  Couldn't we just redefine the interface?
>>>
>> I chose "-1" to clearly differentiate from valid NUMA node IDs (0, 1, 2,
>> 3...).Since node IDs are non-negative integers, "-1" naturally means
>> "invalid" or "no filter", which is an intuitive convention in Linux
>> (e.g., pid -1, signal -1).
>>
>> Do you have a better suggestion for how to represent "clear filter"?
> 
> Seems my suggestion was too implicit.  I'm suggesting using empty string
> instead of "-1".  I think it is also clarly differentiated from valid NUMA node
> IDs?
> 
I understand your point about simplifying the code by removing the "-1"
special case. I'll remove it and use only empty string for clearing the
filter.

Thank you for the suggestions.
> 
> Thanks,
> SJ
> 
> [...]
> 
> 
Thanks,
Zhen


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-30  6:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-28  7:11 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/page_owner: add filter infrastructure for print_mode and NUMA filtering Zhen Ni
2026-04-28  7:11 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm/page_owner: add filter infrastructure Zhen Ni
2026-04-28  7:11 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm/page_owner: add print_mode filter Zhen Ni
2026-04-29  0:57   ` SeongJae Park
2026-04-29  8:19     ` zhen.ni
2026-04-28  7:11 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm/page_owner: add NUMA node filter with nodelist support Zhen Ni
2026-04-28 14:16   ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-29  7:30     ` zhen.ni
2026-04-29  1:28   ` SeongJae Park
2026-04-29  9:03     ` zhen.ni
2026-04-29 14:56       ` SeongJae Park
2026-04-30  3:56         ` zhen.ni
2026-04-30  5:16           ` SeongJae Park
2026-04-30  6:00             ` zhen.ni [this message]
2026-04-28  7:11 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm/page_owner: document page_owner filter features Zhen Ni
2026-04-29  1:35   ` SeongJae Park
2026-04-29  9:14     ` zhen.ni
2026-04-28 14:15 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/page_owner: add filter infrastructure for print_mode and NUMA filtering Andrew Morton

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