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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Yuanhe Shu <xiangzao@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@kernel.org,
	linmiaohe@huawei.com, nao.horiguchi@gmail.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, tujinjiang@huawei.com,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, chengkaitao@kylinos.cn,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/compaction: skip folios containing hwpoisoned pages
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:58:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9da90d76-031f-4211-b9de-439cbf7bc63d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23d3756c-1a87-402d-80b4-c838dfc29f4d@linux.dev>

On 10/20/26 15:31, Kaitao Cheng wrote:
> 
> 
> 在 2026/10/20 21:07, David Hildenbrand (Arm) 写道:
>> On 10/20/26 13:27, Kaitao Cheng wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 在 2026/10/11 21:14, Huang, Ying 写道:
>>>
>>> On architectures with hardware error correction and exception recovery
>>> support, accessing faulty memory automatically triggers an exception,
>>> which itself guarantees atomicity.
>>>
>>> On architectures without such support, even if we implement this logic
>>> in copy_mc_user_highpage() and copy_mc_highpage(), checking the hwpoison
>>> flag and copying the data remain two separate operations. They cannot
>>> be performed atomically, so there is still a race window between them,
>>> however small.
>>
>> Yes. And you need proper architecture support to fix it?
> 
> It does require architecture support, but that doesn't seem practical, haha.

Well, but that's required when an arch wants to rule out all races.

> 
>>> Moving the hwpoison check after the copy might address this issue.
>>> Is there anything wrong with my understanding?
>>
>> Will architectures that are not prepared for copy_mc_user_highpage() not simply
>> crash if they trigger an MCE during an access?
>>
> 
> Do we need to check both before and after the copy? This feels a bit
> redundant, and I'm not sure whether such a small race window warrants
> an additional check.
> 

I don't see how checking after the copy makes any sense? :)

You already crashed if there was a problem, why check? Or what am I missing?

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-20 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-28 10:58 [PATCH 0/2] mm: don't migrate folios containing hwpoisoned pages Yuanhe Shu
2026-09-28 10:58 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/compaction: skip " Yuanhe Shu
2026-09-28 12:12   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-29  3:41     ` Yuanhe Shu
2026-10-11 13:14       ` Huang, Ying
2026-10-20  7:16         ` Yuanhe Shu
2026-10-20  7:52         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-20 11:27         ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-10-20 13:07           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-20 13:31             ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-10-20 13:58               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-10-10  8:35     ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-09-28 10:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/migrate: refuse to migrate " Yuanhe Shu

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